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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by throw23232 »

kibibu wrote: post #442
alwa wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s also OK to like what you like. She likes Suno jams. Great! I feel like this trope is strongest amongst musicians-feeling-underappreciated, but that the idea seeps in to all manners of creative work: that, because you’re rightfully proud of what you do, the audience is wronging you (or “lazy,” or “sad,” or “cheap,” or “tasteless”) by not appreciating it. It doesn’t make me feel a lot of sympathy.

It is, but also it's ok to silently judge people. If somebody told me "I choose to only read AI-generated books" I would also silently judge them.

You guys forgot the "silent" bit though.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by thelucent »

vasco wrote: post #459
thelucent wrote: post #337

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I did the same too. I listen exclusively to my own songs made with the help of AI. My styles are orchestra and symphony pop, which I find rare these days. Even if it exists, the lyrics might not be something that I enjoy. So I just write my own lyrics, decides on the melodies, and put it to AI to create a polished version. Do I feel emotional when I listen to it? Of course, its my own lyrics that I wrote. Of course I…

> My listener wont be able to relate with me personally because they don’t know me What a perfect illustration that while you typed on a keyboard you're so far away from making art. PS: how many pieces of art that moved you were made by artists you knew or met?

I might misunderstood you or you might misunderstood me.

I was moved by a lot of songs made by artists I never met. But I was moved because of the song, not because of the reason why the artist wrote it. If I can truly understand the emotional state of the artist when they wrote it, I might be able to empathize with them. But that's me empathizing with the person that made the art as a human. Nothing stopping me from doing that as a human, even when their song didn't move me.

I publish my songs under a pseudonyms. They can infer what am I as a person based on the songs that I wrote. They can infer what emotions and feelings that I am experiencing while I write the songs. But it's all inference, unless they know me behind the pseudonyms, they won't be able to relate with me personally, as my real self, not as the songwriter. And I am okay with that.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by steveharing1 »

Something, Youtube should have done earlier. But anyway its a good step. But again there are many open models out there on HF that could bypass this just like synthid is not used is every image, similarly not every chinese AI model wants to get their output detected. Time will tell how this goes...

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by thelucent »

textadventure wrote: post #425
imp0cat wrote: post #412

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Does it really have to be suprising? Some people already have a life full of surprises (read: stress). Comforting music can help with that.

That's like saying that in order to not be stressed you can only read books that you write yourself. Are we seriously going to act like any of this is normal or healthy?

maybe a closer analogy is, use software that you wrote yourself because it helps you solve a specific needs?

Which in this case, my need is to recall the memories and emotions when I write the song?

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by kolektiv »

sevenzero wrote: post #505
codeflo wrote: post #491

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> If AI music allows someone with less formal musical skills to feel like they are joining in and making something, then maybe it has its value. An emphatic no. What we need to do is to stop comparing every hobby performance, whether it's music or dancing, with the top 10 artists in their field. We need people to learn, and try, and feel safe to be visible and thus vulnerable in group situations without fear of being…

>we need to stop filming people As live music enjoyer and person that was commonly around safe spaces in the techno scene I cant agree more. Fuck filming people.

It's not even just music anymore. I love motor racing, but at the last meeting I went to, sat in the stands at an iconic first corner, tense with anticipation as the race started... Everyone around me sat there holding their phones up, filming it. I couldn't even see properly because of the forest of arms. People don't just... experience... something now.

What's even more ridiculous is that this wasn't a small race - it was filmed, and broadcast live. Their many, many camera angles and drone shots and everything else are superb, much better than your phone would be. It's on YouTube live and available years later. Why do this? It made me so sad.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by acaloiar »

injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

To be honest, this comment reads to me like LLM output.

You have a history of comments that were clearly written by a human, with character, but this comment stands out to me as an outlier. It has that semi-neutral, slightly pontificating tone of an LLM that just feels off in a way that's difficult to articulate.

I truly mean no offense. There's clearly a human behind this account.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by footydude »

sokka_h2otribe wrote: post #508
footydude wrote: post #495

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> But most people sat there watching, clearly wanting to take part but scared. People have learned that creativity and participation are not welcome. In my experience, a decent proportion of people have always been nervous about joining in. I'd wager that for many of the onlookers it isn't driven by a creativity/participation thing, it's just a (pretty normal) fear of embarrassing themselves. Scroll back 30 years and…

30 years ago you weren't recorded and if you were your recording didn't share across social media networks. This and awareness of it I suspect drives a greater fear of embarrassment. Although you did mention this, I wanted to emphasize it

Absolutely, it's definitely worth emphasising.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by weberer »

textadventure wrote: post #433
alwa wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s also OK to like what you like. She likes Suno jams. Great! I feel like this trope is strongest amongst musicians-feeling-underappreciated, but that the idea seeps in to all manners of creative work: that, because you’re rightfully proud of what you do, the audience is wronging you (or “lazy,” or “sad,” or “cheap,” or “tasteless”) by not appreciating it. It doesn’t make me feel a lot of sympathy.

> It’s also OK to like what you like. She likes Suno jams. Great! People like what they like, sure. And if someone was particularly into the idea of machines making music, or even take some cynical enjoyment out of this on the full understanding of what it is they are doing. Sure, whatever. But someone acting like listening to AI generated music is their only choice due to their taste in music? Come on, that's a sci-…

What resource expenditure? Inference is dirt cheap, especially for a single person's prompt.
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