Refund and non-existent customer service aside, this actually seems like a viable way to promote/demote/destroy specific 3rd-party tools from Anthropic's side.
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#553Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I am assuming the AI/LLM of choice you've implemented in your software engineering org is Claude because as far as I can tell there aren't really alternatives that come close to its quality in software.
We have some very heavy users of Codex in my org and we're very happy with the quality (politics aside).
So your thinking in light of this information is just "don't use Claude"?
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They saw how Google providing absolutely terrible customer service for a very long time has done nothing to hurt their bottom line and decided to copy.
Sorry this is totally unrelated but it caused me to have an epiphany: Google is not a software, hardware, or SaaS company. They are an ad-funded moonshot R&D incubator, searching only for billion dollar lightning strikes. Every part of their business exists only to broker and sell ads or capture more market share to show ads to or to collect and trade data/Metadata for better ad targeting.
Google and Meta are both Advertising companies.
If we want to decrease a tiny bit the insane imbalance in societies we need to have a strong discussion about taxing advertising.
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#555Earlier quoted context omitted.
They saw how Google providing absolutely terrible customer service for a very long time has done nothing to hurt their bottom line and decided to copy.
Sorry this is totally unrelated but it caused me to have an epiphany: Google is not a software, hardware, or SaaS company. They are an ad-funded moonshot R&D incubator, searching only for billion dollar lightning strikes. Every part of their business exists only to broker and sell ads or capture more market share to show ads to or to collect and trade data/Metadata for better ad targeting.
Today? Not 23 years ago (approx) when they started scanning emails?
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Yea I am more or less done with these big providers. I'm running local primarily now. These constant screw ups, not caring about customers, political issues, it's just not worth it for me. I get some people are hooked on vibe coding but the latest wave of small models I'm good for my needs.
What do you use now? How much ram do you have? I am increasingly thinking of doing that
Also could run on a more generic cloud inference or gpu site. At least to see how well it works for your use-case before spending on hardware.
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Mind pointing out where exactly in the contract you were allowed to use OpenClaw?
Non-Claude client access is not permitted in the terms and conditions, except via API key. The correct implementation of this condition by Anthropic on the server side would be to block usage by non-Claude apps via Claude's authentication mechanism, and allow it via the per-token API key billing. Instead of a simple 403 error, which would block usage, they silently redirect to a different billing bucket, which is not…
Yeah, at the least it should alert the user that it is happening. Maybe the thinking was alerting it gives people signal on how to get around the restrictions, but having it silently charge from a different bucket isn't the answer either.
I think part of the issue is they were letting people use plan's API for random stuff, so people could do testing or small projects. Then the agents came along and exploded the cost, so they want to restrict those but still let some other usage, which I don't think is tenable.
I'm sure there is some way that they could enforce that all calls are coming from the Claude app or Claude Code. It might be hard to 100% enforce, with stuff running on a user's machine, but they could still could make it quite difficult, where someone has to be intentionally trying beat the system (like stealing encryption keys out of the Claude Code binary or something).
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Would imagine it's the simplest answer: they're flying by the seat of their pants, there's 1000 things happening every day that demand attention and there's not enough of it to go around. They toss their LLM at it, give it a cursory glance, and ship it. A quick glance at the Claude Code source code bears the result of this process out. The fundamental question is, if their model is so powerful, why do they keep fucki…
I doubt an AI would be stupid enough to write code like that without being explicitly prompted to do so. It's so... specific . That specific nature would mean it would get caught by even the most cursory of code reviews. Even if I was just "scanning my eyeballs over the code" without properly reading it, this would jump out as very odd and make me pause.
They've said publicly that they don't want apps like OpenClaw (Hermes is a variation) being used with a monthly plan vs per-token billing. The problem is this was implemented pretty badly (trying to regex??). And they should put a firm boundary between the two. It shouldn't be trying to switch over to a different billing plan automatically using the same api key.
I think they wanted to try not to totally lock down the monthly plan for non-agent uses, but that makes it all too fuzzy. They should use some specific method like encrypted signatures or something, so that anything sending to the monthly plan that isn't Claude Code or the desktop Claude app just errors out and be done with it.
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#560I wonder how this kind of response from Anthropic is actually being read by the community at large. If you consider the rough sentiment of the r/ClaudeCode subreddit against the r/Codex subreddit, you can see that there is a definite loudness among the folks departing ClaudeCode for Codex. Something big is shifting on the ground, I think.
I'm not really sure what to do here. I refuse to give Altman money, but Anthropic keeps disappointing me over and over with crap like this. Gemini seems behind? Not touching Grok. Meanwhile I've integrated CC into my workflow enough that I'd feel frustrated cutting out all LLM agent use. I don't have the hardware to run models locally, and I'm not excited about the idea of spending that money. I could use a different…
I'm not sure if the context limit on the $25/m, and model-size limit on the $100/m would make it not work well enough for OpenCode, but Featherless AI seems a bit unique in terms of how they handle their inference plans.