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Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Lawfully? How many IPs have they stolen from universities and companies across the world?

Japan did the same in the 70s/80s while growing their homegrown tech companies, over time it seems they've been forgiven. In the end we all benefitted with better products from Sony, Panasonic, Canon, Nikon, and many others.

Germany did the something similar at the beginning of the 20th century

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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It’s a complete sea change. I feel Canada only set tariffs on cars out of some deference to the US auto industry. I don’t want to use slippery slope thinking, but this to me smells like rolling out a Canadian auto market that is not dependent on the US. For the average family, being able to spend significantly less on a car is a big deal.

Keep in mind that the US auto industry is also very much a Canadian one. A lot of Big Three stuff happens across the border in Ontario. But all the policy support that would have let North American automakers build up a competitive position with China is gone, so this is more about just acknowledging reality now.

Big auto style auto manufacturing, with American-style union relations and a messy web of parts suppliers was never going to be globally competitive. GM and Ford deserve to go bankrupt with their current backwards practices.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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In a country with 42 million inhabitants this doesn't seem like a big change even for canada, let alone for the global economy.

> In a country with 42 million inhabitants this doesn't seem like a big change even for canada, let alone for the global economy. The premier ("governor") of Ontario, where GM, Ford, Toyota, etc , have manufacturing plants feels otherwise: * https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-canadian-el...

big auto style manufacturing was never going to be competitive, and propping it up is a jobs program. Just pay them to dig holes and fill them in, and let Canadians have a competitive vehicle market

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> Massive trucks are useful for construction. No, trucks are useful, but a massive modern pickup truck is much less useful in the urban context than a standard pickup truck from 30 years ago. The bed size has remained the same, the outside envelope of the vehicle has ballooned massively. > You should get better transit so less people have cars. Toronto has a very high (for north america) transit mode share

I'm not disagreeing smaller trucks are normally better, but massive trucks are useful unlike cars. Toronto has good transit for North America, but there are plenty of ways to improve it.

I can run faster than the TTC streetcar

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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I'm also curious to see if we will see more "no drive zones". We see this in other domains: I recently talked to someone from an asset inspection (think flying around bridges to check for fractures) company. They can't use DJI drones because of security concerns.

What has astounded me about all this is the extent to which so much of our industry fall crisply into one of two groups: 1. Chinese stuff is cheap incompetent rubbish anyway, anyone near it is by definition a loser, so who cares? 2. Chinese stuff is perfect, amazing and we should just stop doing everything and buy what they're selling. They'll totally open factories here and give us jobs too! The actual reality, whic…

The security concerns are real, China restricts teslas from driving onto military installations for example. Anyhow, this is what we need data protection laws for, not trade protectionism. Canada should prevent exfiltration of data, not the sale of Chinese EVs in general

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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I'm not disagreeing smaller trucks are normally better, but massive trucks are useful unlike cars. Toronto has good transit for North America, but there are plenty of ways to improve it.

I can run faster than the TTC streetcar

faster is one good way to improve. There is a long list of othersi

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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So get those people on transit and leave trucks to people who use them as trucks.

I don't understand why you think I disagree with that.

i don't understand why you replied to me in the first place then.

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This is entirely incorrect. You cannot permanently import or register a vehicle which has not undergone homologation. None of these vehicles have been certified to meet US safety standards and they cannot be imported permanently.

Your comment is also partially incorrect. Vehicles 25 years and older may be imported and registered regardless of safety standards or emissions. https://www.help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-1100?language=en_...

Please show me a list of 25+ year old BYD vehicles, or any EV for that matter.

Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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That's basically it. The Chinese government views the rest of the world through Hobbesian self interest, but in the late 20th century financial way. They want your money, but lawfully. The US has turned into something much more vindictive and unpredictable, including threatening to invade Canada.

Lawfully? How many IPs have they stolen from universities and companies across the world?

You may have a good point but this shows how badly America's reputation has been damaged: it's now viewed as much worse than China.
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