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Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Re: Canada slashes 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs to 6%

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Post by faust201 »

anvuong wrote: post #243
pjc50 wrote: post #234

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That's basically it. The Chinese government views the rest of the world through Hobbesian self interest, but in the late 20th century financial way. They want your money, but lawfully. The US has turned into something much more vindictive and unpredictable, including threatening to invade Canada.

Lawfully? How many IPs have they stolen from universities and companies across the world?

Nice. IP is one thing that has ruined many things. Unless you are WIPO and Oracle Fan.

All current AI companies are closed. What benefit?

Most things from Uni are published openly.

BTW, did people in US pay royalty to China for inventing paper?

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Post by jszymborski »

justonceokay wrote: post #34
Jeff_Brown wrote: post #17

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In a country with 42 million inhabitants this doesn't seem like a big change even for canada, let alone for the global economy.

It’s a complete sea change. I feel Canada only set tariffs on cars out of some deference to the US auto industry. I don’t want to use slippery slope thinking, but this to me smells like rolling out a Canadian auto market that is not dependent on the US. For the average family, being able to spend significantly less on a car is a big deal.

> ...smells like rolling out a Canadian auto market that is not dependent on the US.

Feels like being dependent on both the Chinese _and_ the Americans to me, which doesn't exactly feel like a win.

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Post by standardUser »

nik282000 wrote: post #53

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Perhaps in an ideal world, we trade mostly with allies and nations that are ideologically aligned with the US. Unfortunately, the current president is doing everything he can to weaken alliances with those nations and cripple those trade relations.

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Post by mekdoonggi »

epolanski wrote: post #225
Jeff_Brown wrote: post #17

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In a country with 42 million inhabitants this doesn't seem like a big change even for canada, let alone for the global economy.

Wait till Canadians find out how good Chinese cars for their price.

I suspect the limit will be revised upward ahead of schedule.

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Post by faust201 »

adastra22 wrote: post #263
nicoburns wrote: post #256

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They play things according to their own rules, but at least they have some.

What rules. China famously flaunts the law everywhere they operate, including in foreign countries.

Laughing heard inside the POTUS office.

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Post by fritzorino »

lenerdenator wrote: post #214

Money talks, actual values walk. Always. I get that this is seen as a "practical" move north-of-the-border, but understand, this is the kind of move that guys like Trump, Putin, and Xi all require. They want this kind of thing to happen, because it shows the real issue was never one of democratic values and human rights. If Canadians valued that then their PM wouldn't be inking a deal with China in response to what T…

Trump doesn't care about values at all, he cares about money more than anyone else does. I find it laughable you can even talk about values whilst having that main in charge of your country.

And so what if he turns around and goes "ha your values are worthless". Trump is a literal paedophile and a literal rapist. Why should we accept being brow beat by such a man? So? We're moving on without you.

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Post by derf_ »

BikiniPrince wrote: post #251
anvuong wrote: post #243

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Lawfully? How many IPs have they stolen from universities and companies across the world?

Their train industry was built on ripping off companies they forced into poor agreements. They have wrecked industries with technological theft. I suppose it’s lawful from the CCP perspective.

I do not want to claim that two wrongs make a right, but it is funny that you mention "being forced into poor agreements": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unequal_treaties

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Post by asdff »

footy wrote: post #94
yabones wrote: post #64

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I think the niche for EV's in Canada will be regional-ish transportation... I would love to see a network of chargers that fully cover the Trans-Canada Highway, but there are still some pretty significant gaps, for example Hwy 17 - If even one of the stations goes down you'd be stranded. But in that niche I can really see cheap EVs taking off. I know several people who live in Toronto whose cars have never been more…

As a Torontonian that last part is honestly what I'm most excited about. Massive American cars simply do not belong in most of our streets in this city, and if this starts the long process of getting them out that's going to be amazing. I've seen Cybertrucks zooming down streets that are about a Cybertruck and a half wide and it's an untenable situation.

The issue on massive cars comes from your own government not it being american and chinese. Look at what ford builds in europe: same style of cars as the europeans because tax and regulatory environment favors smaller cars.

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Post by piva00 »

anvuong wrote: post #243
pjc50 wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's basically it. The Chinese government views the rest of the world through Hobbesian self interest, but in the late 20th century financial way. They want your money, but lawfully. The US has turned into something much more vindictive and unpredictable, including threatening to invade Canada.

Lawfully? How many IPs have they stolen from universities and companies across the world?

Japan did the same in the 70s/80s while growing their homegrown tech companies, over time it seems they've been forgiven. In the end we all benefitted with better products from Sony, Panasonic, Canon, Nikon, and many others.

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Post by FuriouslyAdrift »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #280
nicoburns wrote: post #256

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They play things according to their own rules, but at least they have some.

No they don’t. Source: me, lived/worked in China for 6 years. There are two rules: 1) to the strongest (doesn’t matter how you get there, 2) make/keep the right connections (guanxi) that will “apply” regulations to your benefit. Most cut-throat place I’ve ever worked.

Same experience... I was told I was not Han and not family so f-you
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