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Apple shuffles AI executive ranks in bid to turn around Siri

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Post by airstrike »

hbn wrote: post #481
ryandrake wrote: post #456

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This is ugly. User behavior modification as a product goal. The reverse of how you should build products. You need to start with "The user wants to do X." rather than "I want the user to do X." Who is Apple to dictate the "correct" way for me to use a mouse?

Users aren't designers, they don't know what they want and will put up with bad experiences because they don't know it can be better. If Apple let the mouse be used when plugged in, everyone would do it immediately and never try using it unplugged cause of their battery anxiety from every other device. Then you try it unplugged and you realized you have to plug it in for like an hour every couple months and it's way…

> Users aren't designers, they don't know what they want and will put up with bad experiences because they don't know it can be better.

First, I definitely know what I want from my computer.

Second, flipping my mouse over and being forced to stop using it is an objectively worse experience than plugging it in for charging while using.

I have an MX Master 3 which is also wireless and charges with a cord. While it's charging, I definitely have a degraded experience relative to the wireless one, so I unplug as soon as I can (I sometimes don't even wait for the full charge!) to go back to the better experience. Never once have I considered keeping it connected indefinitely.

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Post by JKCalhoun »

scarface_74 wrote: post #280
veidr wrote: post #212

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Apple basically _did_ die, after Performa/Copland (and let's not forget Open Transport!!) The resuscitation was truly miraculous.

And QuickDraw GX and another quickly abandoned technology that came with System 7 Pro.

When I started at Apple it was to work on Quickdraw GX.

It was very cool tech. Closer to what Apple would get from NeXT years later.

My guess is as to why it failed (and this was also the common sentiment at the time) — it was an optional install and not a default. It's hard to imagine anyone writing an app around a component (extension) that few people had in the OS.

Re: Apple shuffles AI executive ranks in bid to turn around Siri

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Post by cmiller1 »

raverbashing wrote: post #83
haunter wrote: post #47

Siri can’t even answer what month it is so the only way is up from here I guess https://old.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/1jehkpm/apple_intel...

Lol Just tried this on Android, and it works (though it gives the full date)

I tried it with Siri and it worked the same, giving me the full date.

Re: Apple shuffles AI executive ranks in bid to turn around Siri

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Post by whatever1 »

The elephant in the room is that the underlying technology SUCKS. No amount of engineering can fix that.

It’s not that apple botched their AI implementation while everyone else has figured it out. The marketing departments using demos have convinced customers that they should have high expectations

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Post by StuffMaster »

PaulHoule wrote: post #363
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #251

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> It's constant change for the sake of change. This is far from isolated to Apple, too. It's a cancer that's infested virtually every single software company in the entire world at this point, and it's endlessly frustrating. If they don't have some New Shiny Version to show off to the tech media and blogosphere everyone starts acting like the software itself is a dead man walking. I also think it's partially down to…

I think of Microsoft’s bad habit of introducing meaningless superficial changes to the interface but they also keep legacy software working for a long long time. (Office ‘97 works fine on Win 11) The strangest thing about this is in the system configuration dialogs where they have a set of really gee whizzy modern configuration screens but you still have to go into 15 year old screens to do many common tasks —- they…

>The strangest thing about this is in the system configuration dialogs where they have a set of really gee whizzy modern configuration screens but you still have to go into 15 year old screens to do many common tasks

I much prefer the older screens. They are so much easier to use.

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Post by 1123581321 »

veidr wrote: post #203
gadders wrote: post #200

David Heinemeier Hansson (Ruby on Rails/37 Signals) has been writing about the state of Apple AI on LinkedIn recently (as well as an additional post that was deleted for using the word "asshole"): https://www.linkedin.com/posts/david-heinemeier-hansson-374b... https://www.linkedin.com/posts/david-heinemeier-hansson-374b...

LOL I did not click the links because I don't want to visit that site (and also have limited interest in what DHH says about Apple Intelligence — not none, but not enough to click it), but I am actually very curious as to why DHH (or anyone, but especially someone like him, with many other places to opine) would post his opinions on LinkedIn of all places...? Can anybody square that circle?

Yes, I can't find the episode now, but on the 37signals podcast, Jason and DHH said that driving signups with public writing are part of their job that they owe to their employees, and that includes presence on places they don't really like such as Linkedin.

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Post by wpm »

phillipcarter wrote: post #506
deergomoo wrote: post #486

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> Now, unfortunately, Apple is on a rigid yearly OS update schedule I cannot think of anything that less needs yearly major updates than macOS. It's a mature, 25 year old OS that, unlike iOS, is used for an enormous range of professional work. I need to it be fast, stable, and predictable. The last thing I want is change for the sake of change, which largely describes the last 5-10 years of the OS. Wanna make Notes.a…

Effectively supporting the workflows people have on an OS necessarily involves significant OS updates given enough users and enough workflows.

What workflows were people doing that required macOS Sequoia? Which ones were improved? Enabled? Hindered?

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Post by dev_tty01 »

ryandrake wrote: post #517
Dylan16807 wrote: post #511

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This is about charging, not how it sends data. And the batteries last a long time for this particular device, so there's minimal downside to unplugging. The downside to staying plugged in is there's a cable dragging around that makes the experience of moving the mouse a little bit worse all the time. A user has to be thinking about something to make a choice. Depending on the user to think about all these little aspe…

I guess we have to agree to disagree. To me, it's not about charging at all. It's about wireless vs. wired, and wireless is a buggy, defective user experience. I want to use my mouse full time while plugged in due to poor reliability when unplugged, and only Apple's devices say no--for reasons that don't make sense. I've never been bothered by a cable sticking out of my mouse.

>I want to use my mouse full time while plugged in due to poor reliability when unplugged, and only Apple's devices say no--for reasons that don't make sense.

The reliability would not be affected since it moves data wirelessly. The data will never go over the charging cable so your reasons for keeping it plugged in don't make sense.

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Post by ksec »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #317
ksec wrote: post #237

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Plenty of examples. The problem isn't JG. It is Tim Cook. He is exceptionally poor at judging character. And I have been saying this for 10+ years. John Browett, CEO of Dixons. Anyone from UK have said WTF at the time. Angela Ahrendts, CEO of Burberry, the two together Apple has literally stopped expanding their Retail store despite having 10x as much customers. Rolled out many "changes" to Apple store when nearly ev…

As soon as Craig Federighi was taking over from Bertrand Serlet, quality started to decline. The only one to not notice is Tim Cook.

I am reminded that the day he told over macOS team. They have been shipping features for features sake. And I dont remember a single new useful thing about from continuity. We are now 10+ years, macOS apart from facelift isn't all that better than before. If anything it might have gotten slower.

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Post by pfannkuchen »

sitkack wrote: post #422
pm90 wrote: post #383

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“Big Company Experience” is a fucking plague. Smaller companies hire from them thinking they will bring magic sauce but all they bring is toxicity and political baggage. Meanwhile the people who went against all odds to get the company to where it is are pushed out, because “they’re not the right fit for this scale”. Nobody who says this ever talks about growing people into those roles.

Big Company Experience means you can thrive Roman style bureaucratic power plays, not actually build things. It does take a different kind of person to bootstrap something out of a garage into a company, and then continue that fledgling company to the next phase, but instead of going BCE, they should be tapping back into the Founder Energy, not the BCE people.

I’m not sure if you intended BCE people to have a dual meaning there, but if you did, well played. That’s a term I wouldn’t mind using.
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