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Post by wilg »

alistairSH wrote: post #518
wilg wrote: post #457

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I don't even understand the advantage of an iPad for non-drawing work. It's just a worse laptop with a too-small keyboard that can fall off and a square screen so it's not good to watch video on and an OS that doesn't do anything well. But Mac laptops are amazing, run all the same software, and don't have any of these problems.

I have an iPad Pro M1 11" with the Magic Keyboard. It doesn't fall off or detach unexpectedly at all. And the keyboard size is close enough to "normal" that I don't notice for normal typing. The only thing I miss is a dedicated ESC key. All that said, it only replaced my personal laptop. I continue to use a 13" MBP at work.

But why do you prefer this over a laptop?

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by ehutch79 »

Fiahil wrote: post #468
derefr wrote: post #262

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> but refuse to add functionality to the OS and keep it overly crippled/restricted What would the point of "adding functionality to the OS" be? If they wanted to put macOS on iPads, they'd just put macOS on iPads. My understanding at Apple's strategy here is that they're simultaneously exploring two different GUI paradigms — almost pitting them against one-another to see which wins (or, if you like, making a hedged b…

> As a user, as long as each user-story you have has been perfectly addressed by some particular siloed iPadOS app, then iPadOS should work for you. And then I tried sending a pdf by email. Oh well. Can I share it on the corporate FTP ? Oh no. Let me airdrop this to you... Wait... is this a windows / android device ? ... Alright, I'll just use my laptop. My iPad is too niche for this workflow.

Do you actually have issues attaching a pdf to email on iOS?

There are plenty of apps to upload stuff to FTP. If this was an actual thing you used with any regularity, you'd have something installed already if files isn't connecting for you.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by schaefer »

shagie wrote: post #443
schaefer wrote: post #277

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I’m not the op, but I am a “pen based note taking enthusiast“. I have owned both a gen 1 remarkable, and an older iPad Pro. In my opinion, the remarkable is garbage in comparison. The note taking app is just so far behind. And cross platform seems it’s never going to happen. My note taking app of choice is always: write, by stylus labs. It’s wonderful, and really expresses what I hoped pen based writing would always…

> Remarkable could win me back by opening the platform and allowing my to install write by stylus labs. It's linux under the cover that you can connect to if you know the password (in the settings). There's a whole bunch of apps that you can side load into it. https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable I'm not sure there's anything preventing you from installing write by stylus labs other than that no one appea…

There is an Arm Linux build of "Write" right here [1]. I'm curious if it would work on the remarkable as is.

I've never side loaded anything on the remarkable, but... I do own one.. so it's worth dusting it off and trying.

Thanks again for the link to the reHackable repo. Hacker News threads seem to cool off quick, but if I have any luck, I'll report back here.

[1]: http://www.styluslabs.com/faq

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by jxdxbx »

roody15 wrote: post #210

I Work IT in a institution with 290 employees and have had 5 switch to iPad Pro's to "replace" their laptop. I am now 5 for 5 with all asking for their laptop back. iPadOS is nothing more than iPhoneOS renamed and the device is still too heavily crippled for desktop/laptop replacement. In my mini test case scenario I never said a word..simply the employee asked for iPad Pro.. I just handed it to them... waited... the…

I don't like how Apple is making the iPad more laptop-y. My ideal is to use a normal desktop computer, and an iPad. No laptop. But if I had to pick only one of course it would be a laptop.

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Post by schaefer »

hoistbypetard wrote: post #371
schaefer wrote: post #277

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I’m not the op, but I am a “pen based note taking enthusiast“. I have owned both a gen 1 remarkable, and an older iPad Pro. In my opinion, the remarkable is garbage in comparison. The note taking app is just so far behind. And cross platform seems it’s never going to happen. My note taking app of choice is always: write, by stylus labs. It’s wonderful, and really expresses what I hoped pen based writing would always…

Have you tried the Pine Note? As someone who really likes Pine 64, and has a PineBook Pro along with a couple of Pine Time watches in my device petting zoo, it's worth pointing out that when they say something is only suitable for early adopters, they *really* mean it. Make no mistake. Their stuff is great. But I'm not buying something they tell me is for early adopters unless I want to write code for it and use JTAG…

I haven't tried the Pine Note (yet).

Like you, I'm willing to take Pine64 at their word that they are still "crowdsourcing system level software". I am eagerly awaiting their monthly blog update/podcast. Tragically, last month's update didn't happen. So, we've all been a little in the dark.

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Post by yreg »

cute_boi wrote: post #544
alistairSH wrote: post #514

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Google Docs updates would always ship with weird bugs Is that really an Apple problem? Sounds like Google is just lazy with QA on Apple devices. Did you try Numbers or Excel and have similar problems?

Or Safari is not a good browser.

These are native apps.

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Post by mort96 »

rpastuszak wrote: post #509
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Not just the walled garden. iPads are simply less capable as productivity devices than a laptop is. Right now, for instance, I have this page open in a web browser, which has youtube playing in one tab, twitter in another, and this in yet another. I also have an iPhone simulator running behind this browser, a terminal window tail -f ing a logfile, and vscode in another window. All of this stuff is open at the same ti…

True, but that's not how most people use their devices.

Right, but some people do. And the people who do, used to be people who don't. And those people became people who do because it was possible. It is a bit worrying to me that so many people will be growing up with devices with such a low "skill ceiling"; devices which don't let your interest in technology bloom but rather restrict what can be imagined.

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Post by jxdxbx »

roody15 wrote: post #239
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On the contrary, I have owned MacBook Pros from the first to the last 17", then again every model since the 16". I also have iPad Pro with magic keyboard and touch pad. I don't travel with the MacBook any more, as I can do anything from the iPad. But it's not just me. I've also been CTO at mega bank and hedge funds where we've rolled these out along side laptops. I've found that after initial objections, folks tend t…

" I don't travel with the MacBook any more, as I can do anything from the iPad. But it's not just me." Interesting, how long have you been iPad Pro only? At the price point of the iPad pro with a keyboard and touch-pad.. why not just buy a laptop like the MacBook Air? Hauling around an iPad pro with a touchpad.. and an external keyboard seems less convenient than just using something like the MacBook Air. Unless I am…

I'm a lawyer and I also only travel with, and can do a lot (but not all) of my work on an iPad. I probably spend more on my iPad Pro + keyboard than I would for a laptop. But the iPad is also my primary e-reader, I watch movies on it, I take note on it legal pad style, etc. Google apps all suck on iOS so I don't use them. I occasionally remote in to a desktop for this or that, but less frequently.

I mostly find that nerds who don't like iPads have opinions that are like 5 years out of date. Trackpad support is great on iPads. The Files app is all I need on a portable device for file management. I can use any USB device I ever want (though in practice, I never do).

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Post by [deleted] »

runjake wrote: post #550

Lots of iPad hate in the comments. But remember, if nobody wanted them, they wouldn't keep selling as well as they are. If you have no interest in an iPad, don't buy one. For me, it's not going to replace my general purpose computers any time soon, but its great for reading or carrying around while on the go for short bursts of work (SSH/Mosh with Blink app, RDP with Microsoft Remote Desktop, VNC with Screens, etc).

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Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by truncate »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #549
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I think for me a major bottleneck of using iPad as laptop is that the screen is still gonna be on heavier compared to keyboard, and the whole combo doesn't feel as solid and sturdy as a good laptop does. iPad feel more physically free in some ways (you can just use screen etc ...), and physically restrictive in others (doesn't feel like one big sturdy unit with keyboard). That all aside, as an engineer it's too restr…

People have been using MS Surface for years now. So top heaviness is generally not an issue that impacts productivity. The magic keyboard works great. You can even get BT knock offs for 1/3 the price. Works fine on your lap.

I'm not questioning the productivity but the feel of it, if you care about that. It always feels natural to me when weight distribution is heavier towards the keyboard.

I can't speak for Surface Laptop, which I think had a bulky keyboard, but the the normal ones (I think was called Pro), always felt weird. Obviously this all is personal choice.

I think the overall point is, iPad is nice replacement only if you are not going to be using keyboard much.

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