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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by walteweiss » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:39 PM UTC

gnicholas wrote: post #203

ksec wrote: post #118

HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

Glad there’re back, but these are not Pro features and should not be limited to the Pro line (starting at $2,000). These are basic features that should be on consumer machines. I shouldn’t have to pay 80% more just to get HDMI, SD, and other features that were on Apple laptops 6 years ago.

Why not consider a used one previous model with ports if you need them so much, but unwilling to pay extra for overpowered machine?

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by wanderinghogan » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:39 PM UTC

These laptops are very impressive, but until there is clarification on their CSAM scanning plans/their future intentions with that, it's going to make me wait. The thought of my OS being integrated with ANY government database with only the assurances of 'trust us, we will say no' still repels me.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by yarcob » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:40 PM UTC

theshrike79 wrote: post #424

belltaco wrote: post #407

If they'd only add touchscreens. Sigh. Edit: Ouch, so many downvotes just for asking for a feature. Weird.

That's bad UX unless the whole of MacOS is redesigned to be used with fingers. Not happening soon. Not saying never though.

> unless the whole of MacOS is redesigned to be used with fingers

People use a lot of web apps that were designed mobile first, and using them without a touch screen sucks.

You wouldn't use the touch screen as primary input, but it would make a lot of things much easier.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by NexRebular » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:40 PM UTC

valine wrote: post #46

Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.

Yet there still is no support for writing HFS (not plus) formatted floppies. Yeah, not really everything I could want...

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by satvikpendem » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:42 PM UTC

trebor wrote: post #521

mizzack wrote: post #92

Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.

Actually, they kept one of the oldest mistakes: overcharging. $400 to upgrade from 16GB RAM to 32GB. $200 to upgrade to 1TB SSD. These guys control the whole supply chain without middlemen like WD, Samsung, Crucial, etc — and they charge basically double what anyone else charges. I'm not paying $2k for a laptop below what I need as a developer, when Apple is ridiculous. Inflation is murder right now, and they JACK th…

They charge what the customer would pay. As long as people keep buying, the prices will keep increasing.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by katzgrau » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:43 PM UTC

No touchbar, I'm sold

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by nsxwolf » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:43 PM UTC

Anyone else think the new cross section looks a bit odd? Very flat on top.

I am glad they did not copy the rounded off corner keys from the new iMac keyboards, though.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by Toutouxc » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:43 PM UTC

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #253

valine wrote: post #46

Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.

Did anyone miss the headphone jack now supports low-impedance headphones? No reason they had to do that - just pure icing on the cake.

High-impedance headphones. Driving low-impedance headphones is easy.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by fomine3 » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:43 PM UTC

valine wrote: post #46

Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.

I wish they offer non mini-LED display option since developer don't need such quality. Apple need to break down "Pro".

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by Joeri » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:44 PM UTC

javajosh wrote: post #227

It's great Apple is changing course back to where they were in 2013. What sucks is that all those laptops built between 2013 and 2022 will be dogs on the used market. For my money, I'm getting the Framework latop and I'm going to bite the bullet and run (in order of preference) FreeBSD, NixOS, or some Linux (Ubuntu, probably). I'm tired of Apple's shit.

What sucks is that all those laptops built between 2013 and 2022 will be dogs on the used market.

Prices will fall, and they have been falling, but they’re not going to crater. The high end models will sell to people that have workloads that are intel only. The cheaper models will sell to people who want to pay less than the price of a new mac, or who don’t understand what they’re buying and think they’re getting a good deal on a 3 year old pro mac priced above the m1 air.