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Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by ta2234234242 »

dperfect wrote: post #529

I'm not a lawyer, and I definitely think the whole copyright system needs reform, but I believe there could be legitimate issues with the legality of publicly posting guitar covers as this person is doing on their channel. I'm not very familiar with the channel, but from the little I've seen, I believe the educational nature (and thereby fair use defense) could be debatable. Even if some of his videos are clearly edu…

> but I believe there could be legitimate issues with the legality of publicly posting guitar covers as this person is doing on their channel.

In a legal sense, it is illegal unless they've paid the compulsory licensing fees.

That said, Youtube was once a place to find new stars who did covers, and many of them got famous. And now people who got famous like KHS do covers without any kind of issue.

https://www.youtube.com/user/KurtHugoSchneider

I just see it as the music industry locking the door behind the people who've already made it.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by dbcurtis »

stickfigure wrote: post #476
pdkl95 wrote: post #344

> I run a YouTube channel that is over 10 years old , has over 770,000 subscribers , almost 600 public videos , 120,000,000 views When writing software involved in managing a live, public, massively multi-user system, the traditional unix-style commands that are immediate, often silent, and capable of damaging effects become a really easy way to shoot yourself in the foot. Worse, some commands might let you accidenta…

Two days ago I restored a customer's data from backup because they typed "ALL" and hit OK on a dialog that said "This will change ALL of your things, type ALL to confirm". This dialog only pops up if N > 100, and normally makes you type the number (ALL is a special case). I just do not know how to make this more idiotproof short of making them fax in the request. No matter what you think is sane, some insane person w…

An old office mate had been a systems programmer back in the days of mainframes. He once put a local-site patch into the mainframe boot code where the question about wiping and restoring the on-line storage required operators to type in, correctly capitalized and punctuated, the precise string: "Yes, I really do want to spend the entirety of my shift hanging tapes."

.... and someone still did it. The struggle is real.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by jfoster »

kelnos wrote: post #328
dalbasal wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Landlords and tenants have contracts, and there are rules about what and how these are enforceable.

Then this is a case of a tenant agreeing to onerous terms before setting up shop in a retail space, terms which allow the landlord to kick the tenant out at their whim, with no legal recourse. I can't believe this needs to be said literally every time one of these types of articles gets posted on HN: if you build your business on top of someone else's platform, and have no contracts in place to protect your interests…

It's not possible to build a business without participating on platforms.

Even the web is a platform now. You won't do well running a website if Google Search and Chrome don't favour it. Depending on how you plan to get your initial customers, you may hit a sizeable roadblock if Google Ads or Facebook Ads decide that they don't want to run your ads.

Windows and MacOS are also platforms.

Even pretty big companies depend upon platforms. Take the example of Epic getting booted from Apple's app store. Facebook have not been able to get Apple to approve Facebook Gaming.

If you want to start an ecommerce business, are you meant to build your own rather than using Amazon & Shopify?

It doesn't make sense to not participate on platforms. What does make sense is to consider what it means for your business. In certain extreme cases like YouTube or Apple's app store, it seems like some degree of regulation may be necessary to prevent the platforms from abusing their position.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by eru »

edoceo wrote: post #485
moltar wrote: post #478

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that’s not true though. Creators create content and make money with ads. No creators = no ad platform.

The number of creators harmed is less than the number of other creators, new creators and other factors. Loss of 0.00001% of the content on YT is, literally, no big deal. You, me, all other creators just don't matter. That is BigG just don't give a f---.

Not sure your logic holds.

If Google is so big that 0.00001% loss of revenue doesn't register for them, they are surely big enough to spare 0.00001% of total engineering time to fix that loss?

In fact, I hear that as a common complaint that when working as an engineer at Google most of the time you are just making some system fractions of a percent more efficient.

Just to be sure, I am not saying that either your premise or the statement you are inferring is wrong. No opinion on that. I'm just saying that your premises don't lead to the conclusion. (But your conclusion might be right for other reasons.)

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by Bedon292 »

ckozlowski wrote: post #534
Bedon292 wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of when s3 went down in 2017, and took a chunk of the internet with it (to include their own status dashboard) due to someone entering a command wrong. https://aws.amazon.com/message/41926/

I was just coming to see if someone mentioned this! I work for AWS, and it's both surprising and heartening to see how often I see this anecdote get repeated, and many times by us to our own customers. We had teams looking for weeks at all of our other services for other instances of this. It was a good operational lesson and one I'm happy to see shared still. If a command will let you perform a self-inflicted wound…

Yeah its an interesting one. I tend to think of it in the context of, well you screwed up and deleted the wrong instance, but at least it wasn't that bad.

I also think about the response to it. Sure it sucked that it happened, and someone was probably feeling really bad about it. But it was a learning opportunity as well. Not just for them, or AWS, but for everyone in tech. Put those safety nets in place.

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Post by thaumasiotes »

pwg wrote: post #528
fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #504

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, some people recommend something like alias rm=‘rm -i’ Unfortunately, as soon as you’re on another computer or at someone else’s shell, you’ll be more comfortable thinking less about rm-ing things and the sanity check won’t be there.

The better recommendation is to alias rm -i to del: alias del='rm -i' And then get in the habit of using 'del' unless you really want a no-confirmation delete. Then when you are on another computer or at someone else's shell you get: del: command not found Instead of having a bunch of files silently deleted.

This strategy will fail pretty badly if you're on someone else's computer using Windows or DOS, where 'del' is the delete command.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by dalbasal »

kelnos wrote: post #328
dalbasal wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Landlords and tenants have contracts, and there are rules about what and how these are enforceable.

Then this is a case of a tenant agreeing to onerous terms before setting up shop in a retail space, terms which allow the landlord to kick the tenant out at their whim, with no legal recourse. I can't believe this needs to be said literally every time one of these types of articles gets posted on HN: if you build your business on top of someone else's platform, and have no contracts in place to protect your interests…

Imo, government regulations is basically admitting defeat and trying desperately to mitigate a little harm while locking in a lot of it.

A regulator tends to lock the status quo into place, it's almost always incumbent friendly... like banking, casinos, tobacco, etc. Remember that Philip Morris benefits greatly from tobacco regulation.

What "good" would be is wrenching video out of YouTube's Kafkaesque hands.

Have we given up on decentralisation?

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by grawprog »

dperfect wrote: post #529

I'm not a lawyer, and I definitely think the whole copyright system needs reform, but I believe there could be legitimate issues with the legality of publicly posting guitar covers as this person is doing on their channel. I'm not very familiar with the channel, but from the little I've seen, I believe the educational nature (and thereby fair use defense) could be debatable. Even if some of his videos are clearly edu…

Our current copyright laws do nothing hut stagnate human creativity. As much as people like to believe they're creative geniuses, most creations tend to be based on previous creations.

Just look at the majority of popular music between 1955-1980 or later. Just about all rock music is either heavily inspired by or directly ripped off of blues. If copyright laws had been what they were today entire genres of music wouldn't exist.

Same goes for Hollywood, tons of movies are just wholesale ripoffs of older ones or 'heavily inspired by them'.

And i'm sure people on HN are likely familiar with such things as the 7 main literary archetypes and whatnot that apply to most human story telling in general.

The best kind of human creativity comes from building on what came before. Sure, we need a system to ensure creators are paid and have control of their creations, but our current system goes so far overboard it limits overall human creativity.

Profit should not come over the benefit of society and humanity, especially when there's room for both. I doubt anyone was really losing any significant amount of money by this channel existing, but somebody was gaining through its existence.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by londons_explore »

gfody wrote: post #536
dperfect wrote: post #529

I'm not a lawyer, and I definitely think the whole copyright system needs reform, but I believe there could be legitimate issues with the legality of publicly posting guitar covers as this person is doing on their channel. I'm not very familiar with the channel, but from the little I've seen, I believe the educational nature (and thereby fair use defense) could be debatable. Even if some of his videos are clearly edu…

according to Tom Scott's very informative summary of all things youtube and copyright [1] there are seemingly reasonable alternatives to suddenly shutting down a whole channel - it seems like we're not getting the whole story as to why those were rejected or aren't being considered in this case? [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU

Remember YouTube and its staff will never make decisions on the validity of copyright claims. They put their safe harbor position at risk if they do so. Instead they consider every copyright claim as valid unless legal proceedings tell them otherwise.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by dalbasal »

ta2234234242 wrote: post #551
dperfect wrote: post #529

I'm not a lawyer, and I definitely think the whole copyright system needs reform, but I believe there could be legitimate issues with the legality of publicly posting guitar covers as this person is doing on their channel. I'm not very familiar with the channel, but from the little I've seen, I believe the educational nature (and thereby fair use defense) could be debatable. Even if some of his videos are clearly edu…

> but I believe there could be legitimate issues with the legality of publicly posting guitar covers as this person is doing on their channel. In a legal sense, it is illegal unless they've paid the compulsory licensing fees. That said, Youtube was once a place to find new stars who did covers, and many of them got famous. And now people who got famous like KHS do covers without any kind of issue. https://www.youtube…

Exactly, and YouTube, now an incumbent has the incentive to shut down the path they themselves used to become the monopoly.
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