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Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by labcomputer »

simias wrote: post #378

It sucks that Google doesn't offer better support, but are they really to blame here? Isn't the root of the issue IP and copyright laws and this very nebulous notion of "fair use" that seems extremely easy for IP owners to dispute and win? I see people in this comment section posting alternatives to Youtube but I really wonder if, should they become equally as successful, they could end up behaving any different. Whe…

> BTW, IANAL and all that but I'm not entirely convinced that his "non-profit fair-use" defense would even hold up in court. Surely he monetizes his videos on top of asking for donations and putting ads on his website. Given his number of subscribers he probably makes a significant amount of money from these videos.

Also not a lawyer (and I think that Google sucks for not disclosing what is allegedly being infringed and what is allegedly infringing), but I suspect this is not a slam-dunk case of fair use.

Running through the 4-factor test (https://guides.lib.utexas.edu/fairuse/fourfactor), it really feels like a fair-use claim would hinge on how transformative the work is:

1. The fact that he's monetizing it at all (even if not in a quid-pro-quo exchange of content for money) I suspect undermines the "non-profit" argument, even if the purpose is educational.

2. Music is pretty clearly in the "imaginative or highly creative" bucket.

3. He states that he "uses no more of the original subject matter than is necessary". Which implies that he might be using more than just a little (or even all of it). But that kinda seems to contradict what he says elsewhere in the video, which that he "doesn't use any resources or materials which are distributed or sold at a premium" and "every thing I've ever created has been 100% self-generated".

4. The website (https://www.goliathguitartutorials.com/) he mentions in the video has guitar tabs and (broken) links to Youtube videos which share names of popular artists and their songs. Without seeing the videos, I would infer that his lessons teach how to play popular commercial songs, which do have an established market for licenses he is avoiding.

It's hard to judge because we can't see the videos... but it kinda looks like this falls firmly under "not fair use" unless he's writing music that is only very loosely inspired by the songs it is named after.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by Thorrez »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #316
retsibsi wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the bit that doesn't ring true to me, his "non-commercial" claim. I'm not at all suggesting that he deserves the treatment he's getting, but it doesn't seem like he's being entirely straightforward here. Can anyone who knows the law weigh in on whether I'm missing something about the distinction between 'commercial' and 'monetized via advertising'?

My sense from listening to him talk is that he believes that not profiting from the videos directly, on YouTube, means that he's in the clear. I fear that this is not exactly how the law works, but I'm also not a lawyer.

>he believes that not profiting from the videos directly, on YouTube

I don't see where he says that. He says he's never profited from selling other people's material. I think he considers putting up content for free with ads to not be selling content.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by dylan604 »

CreepGin wrote: post #527
mattl wrote: post #509

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other than websites and maybe some web-ish apps not too much else would be affected by S3 outage, a DNS outage would affect more of the Internet vs the web.

Websites and web-ish apps are not a chunk of the internet? Also there are tons of non-web-ish apps that depend on S3.

i work on multiple projects that are 100% data crunching with content stored on S3 and accessed solely by ec2 instances. there is no UI or public access. yet if S3 went down, we'd be up a certain creek without a certain self-propelling device and a big whole in the boat without a bucket (physically and in the cloud)

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by ckozlowski »

Bedon292 wrote: post #450
pdkl95 wrote: post #344

> I run a YouTube channel that is over 10 years old , has over 770,000 subscribers , almost 600 public videos , 120,000,000 views When writing software involved in managing a live, public, massively multi-user system, the traditional unix-style commands that are immediate, often silent, and capable of damaging effects become a really easy way to shoot yourself in the foot. Worse, some commands might let you accidenta…

Reminds me of when s3 went down in 2017, and took a chunk of the internet with it (to include their own status dashboard) due to someone entering a command wrong. https://aws.amazon.com/message/41926/

I was just coming to see if someone mentioned this! I work for AWS, and it's both surprising and heartening to see how often I see this anecdote get repeated, and many times by us to our own customers. We had teams looking for weeks at all of our other services for other instances of this.

It was a good operational lesson and one I'm happy to see shared still. If a command will let you perform a self-inflicted wound like that without checks, then it's time to review that command. Err on the side of caution and bias towards minimizing blast radius even if it means sacrificing some speed. "Move fast and break things" may be true at times, but not when the "*" character is ever involved. =)

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by fiddlerwoaroof »

pwg wrote: post #528
fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #504

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, some people recommend something like alias rm=‘rm -i’ Unfortunately, as soon as you’re on another computer or at someone else’s shell, you’ll be more comfortable thinking less about rm-ing things and the sanity check won’t be there.

The better recommendation is to alias rm -i to del: alias del='rm -i' And then get in the habit of using 'del' unless you really want a no-confirmation delete. Then when you are on another computer or at someone else's shell you get: del: command not found Instead of having a bunch of files silently deleted.

Another trick is to run

    touch —- -i
In important directories. Then rm -rf * expands to rm -rf .... -i ... and you get the “are you sure” prompt.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by gfody »

dperfect wrote: post #529

I'm not a lawyer, and I definitely think the whole copyright system needs reform, but I believe there could be legitimate issues with the legality of publicly posting guitar covers as this person is doing on their channel. I'm not very familiar with the channel, but from the little I've seen, I believe the educational nature (and thereby fair use defense) could be debatable. Even if some of his videos are clearly edu…

according to Tom Scott's very informative summary of all things youtube and copyright [1] there are seemingly reasonable alternatives to suddenly shutting down a whole channel - it seems like we're not getting the whole story as to why those were rejected or aren't being considered in this case?

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by tapland »

stickfigure wrote: post #476
pdkl95 wrote: post #344

> I run a YouTube channel that is over 10 years old , has over 770,000 subscribers , almost 600 public videos , 120,000,000 views When writing software involved in managing a live, public, massively multi-user system, the traditional unix-style commands that are immediate, often silent, and capable of damaging effects become a really easy way to shoot yourself in the foot. Worse, some commands might let you accidenta…

Two days ago I restored a customer's data from backup because they typed "ALL" and hit OK on a dialog that said "This will change ALL of your things, type ALL to confirm". This dialog only pops up if N > 100, and normally makes you type the number (ALL is a special case). I just do not know how to make this more idiotproof short of making them fax in the request. No matter what you think is sane, some insane person w…

Printing a list of the fist 100 or so affected files is useful to give a real wake up call and a chanse to double check.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by dylan604 »

Ensorceled wrote: post #457
hahajk wrote: post #446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and if you start implementing these sanity checks, they better be everywhere. Operators will start to rely on them and might become careless - they believe the system will catch any egregious typo. The one spot where the sanity check isn’t implemented will become more vulnerable.

How could some sanity checks be worse than NO sanity checks at all? In the YouTube case, I mean. This is happening ALL the time.

That's the same mentality of people stating because one form of pollution reduction or green energy generation isn't solving the problem that it's not worth attempting to do what you can when you can where you can. Those small moves are what gets the thing moving.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by lopmotr »

Ensorceled wrote: post #457
hahajk wrote: post #446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and if you start implementing these sanity checks, they better be everywhere. Operators will start to rely on them and might become careless - they believe the system will catch any egregious typo. The one spot where the sanity check isn’t implemented will become more vulnerable.

How could some sanity checks be worse than NO sanity checks at all? In the YouTube case, I mean. This is happening ALL the time.

Many of the cases we hear about don't seem to be mistakes, including this one. Sometimes nobody can figure out any possible reason for a ban and sometimes it gets reinstated (that's the undo feature in action). But often there are obvious copyright issues or offensive material and the channel owner only goes clutching at fair use or freedom of speech after the ship has sailed.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by chihuahua »

Psychlist wrote: post #360
wazanator wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offense but I'm not interested in dealing with crypto to post and watch short tutorial videos.

You refuse to use https and only visit sites that still support http-only viewing?

I believe that your parent post was referring to crypto-currency, not cryptography in general.
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