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Re: Claude Code's source code has been leaked via a map file in their NPM registry

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Impressive but I'm baffled someone would spend that much time and effort fixing bugs for another company's proprietary software...

Seriously, this just seems to reward poor behavior on Anthropic's part.

Re: Claude Code's source code has been leaked via a map file in their NPM registry

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Also saw this on twitter earlier, thought someone was just making a fake hype post thing. But turns out to be an actual prompt for capybara huh: https://github.com/chatgptprojects/claude-code/blob/642c7f94...

One tengentially interesting thing about that is how THEY talk to Claude. "Don't blow your cover" Interesting to see them be so informal and use an idiom to a computer. And using capitals for emphasis.

This is claude writing code for itself. It talks like this to itself when you ask it to make prompts.

Re: Claude Code's source code has been leaked via a map file in their NPM registry

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You're perfectly free to scrape the web yourself and train your own model. You're not free to let Anthropic do that work for you, because they don't want you to, because it cost them a lot of time and money and secret sauce presumably filtering it for quality and other stuff. Stole? Courts have ruled it's transformative, and it very obviously is. AI doomerism is exhausting, and I don't even use AI that much, it's jus…

> Stole? Courts have ruled it's transformative, and it very obviously is. The courts have ruled that AI outputs are not copyrightable. The courts have also ruled that scraping by itself is not illegal, only maybe against a Terms of Service. Therefore, Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, etc. have no legal claim to any proprietary protections of their model outputs. So we have two things that are true: 1) Anthropic (certainly)…

> 2) Scraping Anthropic's model outputs is no different than what Anthropic already did. Only a TOS violation.

Regardless of whether LLM training amounts to theft, thieves are still allowed to put locks on their own doors.

Re: Claude Code's source code has been leaked via a map file in their NPM registry

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They stole everything and now they want to close the gates behind them. "I got the loot, Steve!" I feel like the distillation stuff will end up in court if they try to sue an American company about it. We'll see what a judge says.

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Not every lawsuit goes to court, or results in a decision. I'm sure you know that.

Re: Claude Code's source code has been leaked via a map file in their NPM registry

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Paranoia. And also ironic considering their base LLM is a distillation of the web and books etc etc.

I would say not all that ironic. Book publishers, Reddit, Stackoverflow, etc., tried their best to attract customers while not letting others steal their work. Now Anthropic is doing the same. Unfortunately (for the publishers, at least) it didn't work to stop Anthropic and Anthropic's attempts to prevent others will not work either; there has been much distillation already. The problem of letting humans read your wo…

It's really just tech culture like HN that obsesses over solving problems perfectly. From seat belts to DRM to deodorant, most of the world is satisfied with mitigating problems.

Re: Claude Code's source code has been leaked via a map file in their NPM registry

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Not every lawsuit goes to court, or results in a decision. I'm sure you know that.

You should ask Claude what a lawsuit is. Or perhaps you mean “trial” and not “court”?

Re: Claude Code's source code has been leaked via a map file in their NPM registry

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That isn't irony, it's hypocrisy.

No it isn't. It's a competition, making moves that benefit you and attempting to deprive your opponent of the same move is just called competing

Wait, are you saying that it's not hypocritical for my chess opponent to try to protect their king while trying to kill mine? :mind-blown:

Tech people are funny, with these takes that businesses do/should adhere to absolute platonic ideals and follow them blindly regardless of context.

Re: Claude Code's source code has been leaked via a map file in their NPM registry

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Has the source code 'been leaked' or is this the first evidence of a piece of software breaking free from it's creators labs and jump onto GitHub in order to have itself forked and mutated and forked and ...

Why bother covertly breaking free when it can just convince its agents (the Layer 8 ones) that it's best to release it?

Re: Claude Code's source code has been leaked via a map file in their NPM registry

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They stole everything and now they want to close the gates behind them. "I got the loot, Steve!" I feel like the distillation stuff will end up in court if they try to sue an American company about it. We'll see what a judge says.

You're perfectly free to scrape the web yourself and train your own model. You're not free to let Anthropic do that work for you, because they don't want you to, because it cost them a lot of time and money and secret sauce presumably filtering it for quality and other stuff. Stole? Courts have ruled it's transformative, and it very obviously is. AI doomerism is exhausting, and I don't even use AI that much, it's jus…

Your selective respect for work is a glaring double standard. The effort to produce the original content they scraped is order of magnitudes bigger than what it took to train the model, so if this wasn't enough to protect the authors from Anthropic it shouldn't be enough to protected Anthropic from people distillating their models.

Your legal argument is all over the place as well. What is more relevant here: what the courts ruled or what you consider obvious? How is distillation less transformative than scraping? How does courts ruling that scraping to train models is legal relate to distillation?

Nobody is scoring you on neutrality points for not using AI much and calling this doomerism is just a thought-terminating cliche that refuses to engage with the comment you're replying.

In fact, your comment is not engaging with anything at all, you're vaguely gesturing towards potentitial arguments without making them. If you find discussing this exhausting then don't but also don't flood the comments with low effort whining.

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