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My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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A government > standing in for many individuals who share a common injury. Sounds like a synonym for "public interest" to me! Is that a semantic difference, or do you think there's something substantive to it? I'd like to know how you'd handle the case of a new industrial plant (let's even say it's a brand new technology) that will exhaust lead into the atmosphere. Does the government have to wait until there's demon…

> Is that a semantic difference, or do you think there’s something substantive to it? "Public interest" today implies a conflict with private interests: a new sports arena, "affordable" housing, protecting domestic jobs. So no, government-as-plaintiff doesn't count. Personally, I'd define the public interest as interests common to all men: freedom, not sacrifices of some to others. But that's not the modern meaning o…

Yeah, I think our difference on "public interest" is semantic. I wouldn't even quibble with your "interests common to all" definition, so the next step would be to draw lines about what, in practice, that means. Frankly, I think we'd agree about a lot of it: sports arenas and (at least in the abstract) "protecting jobs" don't count for me, either!

You are correct about where I (over) interpreted your view of the court system. Apologies for that, and thanks for the clarification. However, I still don't think I understand the distinction you draw between "retaliatory (proper) vs initiatory (improper)". Would you then say that there shouldn't be a permitting / approval system (because that's anticipatory), so enforcement should be limited to taking pollution readings and acting (in retaliation, natch) after a facility is built? Even if you can sustain that position in principle, I think it would be impractical, across a number of dimensions, in reality. But, it's possible that I misunderstood that point, so please explain further.

I also note a segment from one of your earlier comments, where you advocated for "total separation of state and economics". In my view this is utterly impossible. Regulating pollutants is an intervention that (properly, we agree!) works to the economic disadvantage of pollutors. Even more fundamentally, a (functional, large scale) market economy depends entirely on the state's ability to adjudicate and enforce (at least) contractual terms. I don't think your view can be sustained.

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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A government > standing in for many individuals who share a common injury. Sounds like a synonym for "public interest" to me! Is that a semantic difference, or do you think there's something substantive to it? I'd like to know how you'd handle the case of a new industrial plant (let's even say it's a brand new technology) that will exhaust lead into the atmosphere. Does the government have to wait until there's demon…

Here is “that guy.” You won't convince them with practical examples, because this is a matter of principle. Freedom and independence from the state are more important to these people than a few people suffering from lead poisoning. From their perspective, living a free life and then dying of lead poisoning is still better than being subjugated by the Leviathan. > your second paragraph is at odds with your third Well,…

I've argued (mostly offline, for my sins) with far more libertarian-ish people than I care to have, and I think piekvorst has a) been a more congenial conversational partner than you gave him credit, and b) approached the subject from a slightly different angle than I'd expected, so I'm still enjoying the interchange. In particular (read our latest replies to each other, if you care), he's in favor of regulating lead pollution, so he's miles ahead of certain of my relatives in both principles and practicalities!

But... Yeah. I'm in much more agreement with your point of view, and he's still Wrong On The Internet, so here we are. :-)

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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You mean when thousands of yokels broke into the Capital to try to overturn an election in January of 2020?

I thought we are still talking about "electing".

They were explicitly trying to “sabotage an election”

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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Most people do care even though they won't do any repairs themselves. This very article explains how it makes a few broken keys a 700$ repair. Customers do care about that.

No, enthusiasts care about that. People who have a soldering iron and will try to fix things themselves. Most people do the following: * Take it to Apple * Apple says it will cost $X * Customer says 'yes' and gets it repaired OR customer says 'no' (and proceeds to buy a new one) That's what the vast, vast, vast majority of customers do.

Yes but they will still remember 'damn they wanted 700 bucks because I broke 2 keys??" And think twice before buying the next one. Or just keep it broken.

Also, this might be the case in rich places like silicon valley or the US in general. But most of my friends would come to either me or the less official repair shops when Apple gives them such an outrageous quote. Because most of my friends don't just have $700 for an unexpected incident just lying around. That's a lot of money.

I agree most people don't care about self repair but the majority would care about cost of repair, and the ability to go to unofficial places for cheaper options.

I mean I still get friends coming to me with early 2010s hardware and asking if I can speed it up. Sometimes I install some old memory I had lying around or an old SSD to replace its spinning drive. These things help a lot.

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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My MacBook Pro M1 keyboard broke too and Apple wanted $900 to replace it. I bought a $30 replacement on Amazon and started replacing it myself. Unfortunately the repair was a bit too complicated for me, but luckily one of my co-workers had more patience and replaced it for some beer. This video is a good overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGmMpEEP5ls

I don't even understand the functional purpose of the rivets if the keyboard is already held in place with a million screws and the key slots cut into the aluminum frame. It makes no sense, seems like a waste.

Can you not see why they might be incentivized to make it unrepairable?

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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This is mostly because Americans keep electing total morons.

People believe whatever authority tells them. It's one of those bug/feature things.

People believe whatever they want to be true. If people were just slaves to authority the US would have far fewer covid deaths. Some people really are bootlickers, but even then they tend to choose whose boots they bend over for. It's rarely blind obedience to authority itself.

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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I haven't used a laptop in the last decade that wouldn't last a whole day on battery, or would hold any of those qualifiers for that matter, from Apple or other manufacturers. Not that Apple are bad devices, but they are flawed like the rest of them (often less, and sometimes more in areas that may matter less to you, the software being a major and increasingly one to me). Also good to remember that Apple is a compan…

OK, so what have you used? Makes, models and years would be ideal.

Any mid- to high-end pro-line laptop from the usual manufacturers (dell latitude series, lenovo T series, hp pro/elitebook series) gives you that, really (rigidly built body using magnesium/aluminum alloys, good input devices and IO, high-end config, …) and some practical perks (hot swappable batteries, repairable/expandable, on-site warranty, …)

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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Bunch of screws : 41.

If you have done some repairs, you would know that is nothing. And you would rather have screws than glue or plastic clips, the more the better.

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Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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Politics is an arm's race. This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but Democrats do all the same things Republicans do. Arguably they differ in how they do it, and how much. Democrats gerrymander, and as well traffic in conspiracy theories for example (the latter they do less than Republicans, but they still do it).

They aren’t even remotely close to being the same at this point.

They aren't the same. Democrats don't traffic in fascism.
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