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Post by grey-area »

vineyardmike wrote: post #479
grey-area wrote: post #466

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Natural language is in fact a terrible way to express goals, it is imprecise, contradictory, subjective, full of redundancies and constantly changing. So possibly the worst format to record business rules and logic. This lesson has been learned over and over (see AppleScript) but it seems people need to keep learning it. We use simple programming languages composed of logic and maths not just to talk to the machine b…

Before LLMs (and still now) a human will often write a doc explaining the desired UX and user journeys that a product needs to support. That doc gets provided to engineers to build. I agree - at least with the thesis - that the more we "encode" the fuzzy ideas (as translated by an engineer) into the codebase the better. This isn't the same thing as an "English compiler". It'd be closer to the git commit messages, und…

I think I’d rather have the why in English and the how in code, i.e. keep both, keeping just the English instructions is nowhere near enough to fully specify what was done and why. These things evolve as they are produced and English is too fuzzy.

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Post by shimman »

jiveturkey wrote: post #425
shimman wrote: post #319

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These aren't new economics, it's just VC funds trying to boost their holdings by saying it's worth X because they said so. Frankly the FTC should make it illegal.

That's not how it works at all. Why stop at $300M, why didn't they just say $1BN out the gate?

Of course it's how it works, how else do you justify a company that is making negative profit into some how being worth $300M? Like that's just the game, IDK why people accept it. It's not democratic and all it does it prime the population for fraud and abuse.

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Post by jannesblobel »

zild3d wrote: post #508
jannesblobel wrote: post #488

Imagine shipping a product, and a few weeks later, you see Thomas Dohmke raise $60M for almost the exact same idea. Some weeks ago we launched this: https://github.com/Legit-Control/monorepo/tree/main/examples... The idea was simple: keep AI prompts, intents, and conversations alongside your code and commits — basically treating AI interaction as first-class development artifacts. everything just plain Git We struggl…

to be fair this is a pretty hot topic, that the work is shifting to the prompt/agent thread but then thrown out / not captured greg brockman https://x.com/gdb/status/2019566641491963946 > 6. Work on basic infra [...] there's a lot of infrastructure that currently go around the tools, such as observability, tracking not just the committed code but the agent trajectories that led to them, and central management of the…

Absolutely, it's also cool to see that so much is happening here right now. Sometimes you need a bit of a network to get something like this off the ground. Building infrastructure is never easy.

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Post by hansmayer »

straydusk wrote: post #239

> Checkpoints are a new primitive that automatically captures agent context as first-class, versioned data in Git. When you commit code generated by an agent, Checkpoints capture the full session alongside the commit: the transcript, prompts, files touched, token usage, tool calls and more. This thread is extremely negative - if you can't see the value in this, I don't know what to tell you.

> This thread is extremely negative - if you can't see the value in this, I don't know what to tell you.

This sounds a lot like that line from Microsoft's AI CEO "not understanding the negativity towards AI". And Satya instructing us to not use the term "slop" any more. Yes we don't see value in taking a git primitive like "commit" and renaming it to "checkpoint". I wonder whether the branches going to be renamed to something like "parallel history" :)

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Post by sarchertech »

raincole wrote: post #523
toraway wrote: post #374

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What kind of barrier/moat/network effects/etc would prevent someone with a Claude Code subscription from replicating whatever "innovation" is so uniquely valuable here? It's somewhat strange to regularly read HN threads confidently asserting that the cost of software is trending towards zero and software engineering as a profession is dead, but also that an AI dev tool that basically hooks onto Git/Claude Code/termin…

GitHub doesn't have a "moat" either besides network effect. Just like most SaaS. And it was sold to Microsoft at $7B.

Well that was in the era of free money for one. And the primary value was in all the human made content for AI training.

I’m sure there’d be some value to extract from the agent produced code in this thing, but I doubt it’s anywhere near as much.

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Post by grimgrin »

csmpltn wrote: post #530
straydusk wrote: post #239

> Checkpoints are a new primitive that automatically captures agent context as first-class, versioned data in Git. When you commit code generated by an agent, Checkpoints capture the full session alongside the commit: the transcript, prompts, files touched, token usage, tool calls and more. This thread is extremely negative - if you can't see the value in this, I don't know what to tell you.

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I will never use this platform. i didn't even click into it. pathetically, i did click to view comments

But I think commenting on someone's bio is the kinda harshness you only do in the moment. the kinda thing I'd approach differently in hindsight (one that isn't an attempt to be cruel)

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Post by rglover »

cstever wrote: post #309

With the how AI companies are advertising we can just tell the AI what we want and it will be done with no additional human interaction needed, why do we need a new type of development platform? We shouldn't need to collaborate at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJUuJtGgkQg * This is snarky. Yes. But seriously.

The why is simple: "because we need the money." The idea is just a vehicle to get that money. Whether or not it works or makes sense is secondary to but does it make the children dream, pa-pa?

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Post by rglover »

heliumtera wrote: post #195

The lack of explanation of what it is and does is a tell of what gullible audience they are seeking. Tech marketing has become a lot like dating, no technical explanation and intellectual honesty, just word words words and unreasonable expectations. People usually cannot be honest in their romantic affairs, and here it is the same. Nobody can state: we just want to be between you and whatever you want to accomplish,…

No, because the goal isn't to make things work. The goal is to make money by appearing to make things work. People who actually know don't tend to take ridiculous sums of money just to go tinker for a few years—they just build the damn thing and move on. The game here is perception and money—not necessarily competent engineering or legible products.
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