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Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by aeve890 »

nhumrich wrote: post #420

So, let me get this straight, the "platform fee" is baked into the runner cost, but, their cheapest runner is the _same price_ as the platform fee? So its the same price to have them run it vs have me run it?

It seems like a solid plan to me:

- charge the same you would pay for the GitHub runners

- you have to factor YOUR server cost also, so self hosted will cost more than the platform option

- you jump to the platform runners and save on servers, sysadmin, DevOps, etc.

And then they grab you by the balls and raise the prices.

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by PunchyHamster »

larkost wrote: post #335
featherless wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a solo Founder who recently invested in self-hosted build infrastructure because my company runs ~70,000 minutes/month, this change is going to add an extra $140/month for hardware I own . And that's just today; this number will only go up over time. I am not open to GitHub extracting usage-based rent for me using my own hardware. This is the first time in my 15+ years of using GitHub that I'm seriously evaluating…

But it is not for hardware you own. It is for the use of GutHubs coordinators, which they have been donating the use of to you for free. They have now decided that that service is something they are going to charge for. Your objection to GitHub "extracting usage-based rent from me" seems to ignore that you have been getting usage of their hardware for free up to now. So, like I said, the question for you is whether t…

so they are selling cent of their CPU time for a minute's worth

> My guess is that once you think about this some more you will decide it is worth it, and probably spend some time trying to drive down your minutes/month a bit. But at $140 a month, how much time is that worth investing?

It's $140 right now. And if they want to squeeze you for cents worth of CPU time (because for artifact storage you're already paying separately), they *will* squeeze harder.

And more importantly *RIGHT NOW* it costs more per minute than running decent sized runner!

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by PunchyHamster »

hugs wrote: post #319
featherless wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a solo Founder who recently invested in self-hosted build infrastructure because my company runs ~70,000 minutes/month, this change is going to add an extra $140/month for hardware I own . And that's just today; this number will only go up over time. I am not open to GitHub extracting usage-based rent for me using my own hardware. This is the first time in my 15+ years of using GitHub that I'm seriously evaluating…

feels like a new generation is learning what life is like when microsoft has a lot of power. (tl;dr: they try to use it.)

Feels like listening to Halo generation being surprised MS fucks them over, because they thought they were Good Guys, coz they Made Thing They like

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by echoangle »

PunchyHamster wrote: post #529
danpalmer wrote: post #486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For them to do essentially nothing. Orchestration, logging, caching, result storage. It's not nothing. Whether it's worth it to you is a value judgement, and having run a bunch of different CI systems I'd say this is still at least competitive.

They are charging for storage separately already! Why are you lying ?

Lying implies intent, I don't think the person you're replying to is necessarily lying, even though they might be wrong on this specific point.

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by almosthere »

aaronds wrote: post #535
almosthere wrote: post #527

Well sounds like $40 per month more for us. Looked at CircleCI pricing, and mostly because of HOW they charge, it would be $3000, so Github it is.

Is that because you have loads of users? (curious CircleCI employee here)

Your pricing page seems to have changed intra-day. but now it's about $400ish.

30 users + 500 builds.

However I don't know what counts as a build, since a typical commit to an open PR uses 10 GH runner machines simultaneously doing odd jobs like integration tests, releases, deploys, etc...

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by hoppp »

Someone1234 wrote: post #463

I really enjoy how they list the price PER MINUTE to make it sound like this isn't absurdly expensive. A lot of people leave their self-hosted runners running 24/7 because, after all, they're self-hosted. This is $2.88/day, $86.4/month, $1051.2/year. For them to do essentially nothing. Most notably, this is the same price as their hosted "Linux 1-core" on a per-minute basis. Meaning they're charging you the same for…

How can they charge for something self hosted per minute? Thats very weird to me. If I run the software I should pay a single time only, if I don't own it then why self-host im the first place?

Maybe this is designed to scare people away from self-hosting altogether?

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by janc_ »

gaigalas wrote: post #467
bdbdbdb wrote: post #426

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like a bad deal right? Except the alternative is I do this for free but also I'm doing all the testing and providing the hardware. I'm only going to charge you if you do most of the work yourself

If you do it all, you can optimize the whole supply chain. Maybe you can put some expensive capacity you built to use and leverage it when otherwise impossible, etc. Maybe it's bad business dealing with lots of non-standardized external hosts, and it drags you down. Maybe people are abusing the free orchestration to do non-CI stuff and they're compromising legitimate users. Look, I understand it's frustrating to some…

This is actually about abusing Microsoft's market position to eliminate competitors in related markets, plain & simple.

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by notnullorvoid »

nhumrich wrote: post #417
chrisweekly wrote: post #303

Personally, I quite liked GitLab CI when I used it circa 2021-23. Just now I did a quick search and found this article^1 suggesting (even before this GH pricing change) Gitlab CI may be a better choice than Github Actions. 1. https://medium.com/@the_atomic_architect/github-vs-gitlab-20...

I LOVE gitlab, but their new pricing is absurd. It feels like they are trying to shovelware their AI stuff. Their cheapest plan is more than 7x the cost of github, AND more expensive than github enterprise! And thats on the _cheapest_ non free gitlab plan. If you self host gitlab entirely, you can't even get branch/force-push protection. If they could bring their pricing to even just 2x github by having a NON-AI plan…

I had to go check to see what their pricing was, and I couldn't believe it. The base tier was $4/month, now that tier is gone and the premium tier is 2x what it used to be only 5 years ago.

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by hk1337 »

AWS code (build|deploy) supports GitHub actions workflow, gitlab does, gitea (codeberg, forgejo) too

The biggest issue is the compatibility, forgejo doesn’t have all the actions available that GitHub does nor some of the same functionality

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by aaronds »

almosthere wrote: post #545
aaronds wrote: post #535

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that because you have loads of users? (curious CircleCI employee here)

Your pricing page seems to have changed intra-day. but now it's about $400ish. 30 users + 500 builds. However I don't know what counts as a build, since a typical commit to an open PR uses 10 GH runner machines simultaneously doing odd jobs like integration tests, releases, deploys, etc...

Can you send a link to the page you’re looking at? Thanks!

Pricing should mostly just be users + build minutes (for cloud runners) + storage. There is a few other optional, feature specific costs. Self hosted runners are free, but you need to self host caches/workspaces - our native ones have an egress bill to self hosted runners.

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