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Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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It'd be an interesting way to count how many impressions your tweets get: add a URL to every tweet, put a tracking "pixel" in the webpage (assuming the webview loads all assets; if not, then just add the "pixel' URL to the tweet..

Make the pixel a zip bomb for lols

Advertising landing page full of CPI ads?

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

#542
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I find it so sad that Twitter still gets traffic at all. Even if we put aside the super shady content on this platform (free speech, lol), the app, either on the web or mobile, has a sub-par user experience. I wish all the devs that I respect were using another platform.

X has a lock on live information that no one else has figured out yet not from a technical perspective but from an adoption perspective.

It certainly doesn't.

About 1/3 of the people in the USA use Twitter. Which means 2/3rds of us do not. Reddit's audience is larger, at about 1/2 of Americans. Mainstream media's is 2/3rds. And the true information flow happens when people talk IRL after consuming some or all of the above.

So while yes, Twitter has a significant audience, they are not holding a monopoly on live information in any form.

(And this isn't even getting into whether or not people trust each of these information platforms. People often consume media but don't trust what they hear. Which is probably a good thing.)

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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>only served to push him and his listeners rightward Kind of takes the agency away from full-grown adults, doesn't it? How about people have principles and don't change them to chase audience/money/fame, eh?

For a communicator, no audience means you lose everything. Why would he, or for that matter, anyone do that? Look at JK Rowling. Stood her ground, if it wasn't for her books allowing her advocacy, she'd have disappeared. Instead she has to endure being among the most hated millionaires for a good bunch of the left. Say Rogan sticks to his guns. He would face similar, never-ending attacks, no left-leaning figure could…

> Stood her ground, if it wasn't for her books allowing her advocacy, she'd have disappeared. Instead she has to endure being among the most hated millionaires for a good bunch of the left.

This framing is laying on the narrative a little bit thick don't you think? It makes it seem like she's hated for being wealthy, when it is actually because she has been funding hate groups and calling for trans people to be physically attacked.

The "standing up for women" rhetoric is a little bit hollow in the face of her non-existent feminism when the subject isn't physically attacking trans women, she didn't make a single comment during the recent uptick in abortion debates taking place in the UK for example.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

#544

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The APIs definitly used to be open enough that you could hit a "Generate token", hit one endpoint with cURL and then receive a firehose of all public tweets from that moment on, no reviews or validation at all, all you needed was an account + token. I think this is a huge reason for the initial popularity, because it was trivial to build really fun experiences on top of that, until they cut it off for whatever reason…

> and then receive a firehose of all public tweets from that moment on The complete firehose was expensive and paid-only. You could get a sampling of Tweets at a lower rate through the API. It wasn’t the complete firehose, though.

That sample was complete though as long as there wasn't too many tweets. I.e, as long as your query was specific enough, you _did_ get all tweets.

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USAID was a highly effective and efficient operation. Musk dismembered it, leading to untold misery, death, and the spread of infectious diseases. I think this is reason enough to hate Musk. Also, keep in mind that what Musk did was a violation of the separation of powers in the Constitution, so he simultaneously killed a program which saved lives while he also started the U.S. on the road to authoritarianism. https:…

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Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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> You know the spied everything you browsed, right? I remember that this "became news" some time ago, but it's always pretty obvious the moment it loads. App presenting an SFSafariViewController? "Convenience" that's intended to keep users in the app. App presenting a WKWebView? Assume it's loaded with spyware scripts.

no no, not in the fb app, in the mobile browser: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44169115 TBF it's "only" sites with a meta pixel, and on Android. But in my book this does not matter, it shows their intentions

Ohhh yes I remember that one. Diabolically clever.

I'm sure there's also no user-controlled firewall to stop it on Android either.

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#547

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Why do so many supposedly smart humans think that we can make an artificial mind that is capable of AGI (or even something close to it), but from a completely detached evolutionary history and biological needs, and somehow force it to "align" to our human/biological/societal priorities? Have none of these people ever had or been a teenager? At least teens have some overlapping biological requirements with non-teens t…

I think the assumption is that without emotions there is no agression or evil intent

When I think of the closest analogue I can, emotionless humans, the picture is generally sociopaths, and the "non-aligned."

I think the assumption you mention is, frankly, sociopathic.

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#548

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You haven’t made a case for why free content should be more important than relevance. If the search engine orders by relevance, than I can make the decision for myself of where to trade-off with paywalls. I don’t want a search engine to make the decision for me because it cannot: what if the only answer to my question is behind a paywall?

“ You haven’t made a case for why free content should be more important than relevance.” I didn’t make that claim, i am contesting the claim “Only relevance should decide ranking”. I am arguing ease of accessibility should be a factor.

Unless you mean as a tie-breaker in the niche case of equally-relevant results, then you're making the claim that it's better to see less relevant (or nonrelevant) results just because they have some other quality beyond relevance.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Going to the moon is very much vaporware. Maybe the penultimate example of it.

penultimate = second last

I'm sure Musk will have another scam soon enough!

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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People already knew the value of data long before LLMs were popularised and web scraping has been a thing since the very beginnings of the web. Why you’re describing isn’t a recent phenomenon. Not even remotely. Facebook has never allowed people read only views to their platform. And Expert Stack Overflow like Quora used the same dark patterns you described too.

Getting down voted for stating a fact. Just goes to show how short some people’s memories are.

You're getting downvoted for stating falsehoods.

> Why you’re describing isn’t a recent phenomenon. Not even remotely.

The big platforms were accessible without login a few years ago, now they're not. That is literally a recent phenomenon.

> Facebook has never allowed people read only views to their platform.

In the past, I've often looked at Facebook posts without logging in.

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