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I find it so sad that Twitter still gets traffic at all. Even if we put aside the super shady content on this platform (free speech, lol), the app, either on the web or mobile, has a sub-par user experience. I wish all the devs that I respect were using another platform.

X has a lock on live information that no one else has figured out yet not from a technical perspective but from an adoption perspective.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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post #57

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Yeah it's so fascinating that people want an open internet rather than a small group of billionaires and big tech companies controlling everything. Truly bizarre.

"open"? That's an interesting word to describe a platform that was previously the undisputed playground of Feds and NGOs.

What does this mean?

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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post #67

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Sorry, are you actually five years old? Until just a few years ago Twitter was entirely open. You could view any and all public tweets, replies, threads. All exactly like you were logged in. Their APIs were open and you could literally plug the entire stream of all tweets from all users on the actual planet in real time into your own application.

From UI perspective you are right, but not for APIs.

The APIs definitly used to be open enough that you could hit a "Generate token", hit one endpoint with cURL and then receive a firehose of all public tweets from that moment on, no reviews or validation at all, all you needed was an account + token.

I think this is a huge reason for the initial popularity, because it was trivial to build really fun experiences on top of that, until they cut it off for whatever reason (guessing money, one way or another).

At the same time, you could also view tweets without being logged in, and you saw replies too.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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post #64

On a related topic, I've been following with some amusement the outrage on Reddit/r/Grok because Grok will no longer make porn. Apparently Grok was trained on all the NSFW material on X and Twitter before it intentionally so Grok could have a "spicy" mode. And spicy it was. Some of the stuff it made was really good and people loved it. But (allegedly) Musk changed his mind to go after enterprise and government accoun…

I mean isn't this just considered data poisoning?

The training data was considered good by Musk to start with, so he could have spicy mode, but he changed his mind and now Grok is considered poisoned with porn. My question is, can that be fixed or does he have to start over again?

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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post #32

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Always been like that. Twitter, Instagram, ... None of those platforms have usable UX if you're not logged in.

This is not true, this change is a recent phenomenon, I believe it came into effect sometime around 2021-2023 (maybe earlier even). I believe it changed when OpenAI showed the value of data. Before, there was no problem using Instagram or Twitter while not logged in. Now there is a dark pattern that forces you to create an account, or log in.

Instagram has always redirected me to a login page. Twitter only did after Elon and his friends went batshit ruining the website.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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post #32

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Always been like that. Twitter, Instagram, ... None of those platforms have usable UX if you're not logged in.

This is not true, this change is a recent phenomenon, I believe it came into effect sometime around 2021-2023 (maybe earlier even). I believe it changed when OpenAI showed the value of data. Before, there was no problem using Instagram or Twitter while not logged in. Now there is a dark pattern that forces you to create an account, or log in.

This is my recollection as well when they all realized they were feeding the bots that the free use became broken

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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post #71

I find it so sad that Twitter still gets traffic at all. Even if we put aside the super shady content on this platform (free speech, lol), the app, either on the web or mobile, has a sub-par user experience. I wish all the devs that I respect were using another platform.

X has a lock on live information that no one else has figured out yet not from a technical perspective but from an adoption perspective.

My government has been posting a lot of information (weather alerts, road works, etc.) on their own, dedicated Mastodon instance. They don't really advertise it, but it's good they have a platform to publish live information to in case the Americans continue to get weirder.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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"open"? That's an interesting word to describe a platform that was previously the undisputed playground of Feds and NGOs.

What does this mean?

Pre-2022, Twitter was subject to heavy editorial oversight from D.C. and northern VA.

Censorship and propaganda at breathtaking scale.

This is a good place to start: https://twitterfiles.substack.com/

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