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Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by tantalor »

codingdave wrote: post #326

Take this entire paragraph and read carefully, and it explains how to kill this trend: > “The truth is, if you want a job, you’re gonna go through this thing,” Adam Jackson, CEO and founder of Braintrust, a company that distributes AI interviewers, tells Fortune. “If there were a large portion of the job-seeking community that were wholesale rejecting this, our clients wouldn’t find the tool useful… This thing would…

This is a trivial observation.

Boycotts always work. How could they not?

The problem is, you need a critical mass, which you won't get.

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Post by beefnugs »

bthrn wrote: post #125

It's funny how employers try to rationalize this -- take Coinbase, for example: https://www.coinbase.com/blog/how-coinbase-is-embracing-ai-i... > While some worry AI will dehumanize the hiring process, we believe the opposite. Deploying AI will enable more quality interactions, more quickly for the candidates who are the best fit for our jobs– without unnecessary administrative tasks or distractions. We fully believe…

I mean if these words are true, then all their candidates will work hard to game the system with their own AI-abusing AIs of their own. So hopefully they will be inundated with a thousand applicants and only one or two respond at all and say "now you have to beat my other 100 offers, begin"

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Post by shrubble »

os2warpman wrote: post #535
HaZeust wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't ever let anyone brainwash you into thinking we don't have the money and guns either.

Guns are useless. Everyone who believes guns are some kind of savior or last-ditch protector is fucking stupid. There is a reason why, during westward expansion, the first thing towns did when they got two nickels to rub together to buy bricks to build a church was ban guns. There are so many real-world examples of guns being useless that it defies logic and belief that people cling to the myth. There are so few exam…

Like with the Viet Cong and the Afghanistan people who were conquered and absorbed into the American or Russian systems, right?

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by akudha »

HighGoldstein wrote: post #539
akudha wrote: post #426

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What is the point of numbers if there is no unity? Since Covid, there are decent successes in forming unions and collective bargaining, but it is nowhere enough. How many IT workers (as an example) have unionized or even have positive opinions on unions? A handful of guys can effectively rule large groups of people for a long period of time, if the said large group can't unite, can't help each other.

The problem with fields like IT is that the people who can make unions effective are also already employed and likely making decent money, so they have little or not enough incentive to unionize. The worst thing that can usually happen to them is layoffs, and in that case there might be a lot of copium in the form of "It won't happen to me".

Yeah, big numbers and big crowds are useless, if there is no unity, no tendency to help fellow worker. As you point out "it won't happen to me" attitude is precisely why a handful of dudes who run big tech can get away with almost anything. "It won't happen to me" works, until it doesn't. By then it will be too late (maybe it is already too late?) to bring out any meaningful change

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Post by nostrademons »

Balgair wrote: post #89

I did one of these once. Once . I felt so bad afterwards that I swore them off forever. It's not like the 'interview' was terrible or anything. I knew it was AI from the start. It was just that when I got done with it, I realized that I had talked at a computer for ~45 minutes. And, yet again, I was going to be ghosted by the company (I was), and that I was never going to get those 45 minutes back. That was time I co…

This is where their AI needs to talk to your AI.

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Post by QuercusMax »

munificent wrote: post #496
QuercusMax wrote: post #340

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That's what's so incredibly stupid about the tariffs, immigration crackdowns, etc. Life is not a zero-sum game, and treating it like it is just makes it worse for everyone - unless you're the sort of person who really gets off on having other suffer worse than you.

A group of people who all agree that life is not a zero-sum game and cooperate effectively based on that premise will be very efficient, productive, and outcompete other groups. They are also a honeypot begging to be exploited by bad actors for whom life is a zero-sum game. Once a critical mass of those asshats show up, all of the trust that led to the greater efficiency and productivity breaks down. Greater trust be…

Basically: assholes ruin things for everyone.

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Post by benreesman »

os2warpman wrote: post #535
HaZeust wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't ever let anyone brainwash you into thinking we don't have the money and guns either.

Guns are useless. Everyone who believes guns are some kind of savior or last-ditch protector is fucking stupid. There is a reason why, during westward expansion, the first thing towns did when they got two nickels to rub together to buy bricks to build a church was ban guns. There are so many real-world examples of guns being useless that it defies logic and belief that people cling to the myth. There are so few exam…

The United States Military is the most terrifying institution of force in the history of the human race (history of the universe as far as we know). It achieves a level of training, discipline, organization, morale, combat effectiveness and general formidavlbility that makes the median Marine among the best soldiers on the planet anywhere, all backed by a logistical apparatus unrivaled by any conceivable combination of private sector actors working together. Unrivaled now, maybe ever.

And it got its ass kicked in Afghanistan. Trillions of dollars and countless lives later and a bunch of Pashtun tribesmen with AK-47s and RPG-7s have the country back, and a bunch of our materiel for our trouble.

Because the only thing on the planet more dangerous than a United States Special Forces operator is a man with nothing to lose.

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Post by econnors »

bee_rider wrote: post #540
akudha wrote: post #422

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I'd hate being interviewed by a bot. Talking to these stupid automated answering machines is bad enough. That said, the other side of the equation is also bad, for employers. I was asked to conduct some interviews recently. I asked the most basic of questions (like absolutely basic stuff, "what is an interface?" level basic). The number of people who said "I don't know" is far less than the number of people who tried…

I think “what is an interface” would trip me up actually, haha. My thought process was: Well, most of the code I use uses a Reverse Communication Interface. But, I think these are pretty old-school projects, maybe I should start by talking about the Object Oriented interface to the library that we recently did. Or maybe I can talk about the file IO based interface that I did, it was extremely cursed but kind of funny…

"Can you clarify what you mean by interface?" is the right answer

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Post by hawk_ »

strbean wrote: post #527
Balgair wrote: post #522

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Wait, how does this thing work? Can't you just vibe-code your way through it? Genuinely curious on your thoughts on this idea here.

They're probably using a platform that lets you replay the entire development session (see the pace of typing into a web IDE, what files they are looking at, etc.). Applicants will have to work pretty hard to fake natural-looking input of AI-generated code.

But then someone has to watch the recording which you can speed up by say 2-4x but not much more than that. This doesn't scale. The number of terrible candidates out there who have no business being anywhere near an IDE is insane.
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