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Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by Aeolun »

stingraycharles wrote: post #528
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #88

I'm probably not going to hit the weekly limit, but it makes me nervous that the limit is weekly as opposed to every 36 hours or something. If I do hit the limit, that's it for the entire week —a long time to be without a tool I've grown accustomed to! I feel like someone is going to reply that I'm too reliant on Claude or something. Maybe that's true, but I'd feel the same about the prospect of loosing ripgrep for a…

Yeah, if this happens, I’m probably going to do the inevitable: get two accounts. If I could pay $500 a month for Claude 100x I would probably do it at this point. Given that I rarely hit the session limits I’m hopeful I won’t be affected, but the complete and utter lack of transparency is really frustrating.

Like, I understand why they do it, usage patterns aren’t the same all over the world, and they paid for the GPU’s anyway, so they want to utilize them. People in parts of the world that see less CC utilization get to do more with their CC plan than people in very busy areas of the world.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by jjani »

foota wrote: post #380
strictnein wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not what they claim: https://www.anthropic.com/pricing > Max > Choose 5x or 20x more usage per session than Pro* > Higher output limits for all tasks > Priority access at high traffic times That first bullet pretty clearly implies 4x the usage and the last one implies that Max gets priority over Pro, not that 20x gets priority over 5x.

That is sort of what it implies, but I don't think that's what's actually happening on the backend. I was looking at this yesterday though and I agree that it's all a bit hand-wavy. I feel for them somewhat though because it's hand-wavy because it's a difficult problem to solve. They're essentially offering spot instances.

Or go here: https://claude.ai/upgrade/max. What does it say on top, on the actual pricing page?

Max plan

5x more usage than Pro $100.00/month + tax

Save 50% 20x more usage than Pro $200.00/month + tax

Especially with the "save 50%", if they're not actually offering 4x that of 5x, that's easily illegal false advertising in half the territories Anthropic's customers are located in.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by Kurtz79 »

blitzar wrote: post #307
ketzo wrote: post #284

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What does your Claude code usage look like if you’re getting limited in 30 minutes without running multiple instances? Massive codebase or something?

I set claude about writing docstrings on a handful of files - 4/5 files couple 100 lines each - couple of classes in each - it didnt need to scan codebase (much). Low danger task so I let it do as it pleased - 30 minutes and was maxed out. Could probably have reduced context with a /clear after every file but then I would have to participate.

If I understand correctly, looking at API pricing for Sonnet, output tokens are 5 times more expensive than input tokens.

So, if rate limits are based on an overall token cost, it is likely that one will hit them first if CC reads a few files and writes a lot of text as output (comments/documentation) rather than if it analyzes a large codebase and then makes a few edits in code.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by 14123newsletter »

zamadatix wrote: post #478
xpe wrote: post #363

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> pressures users to hoard As a pedantic note, I would say 'ration'. Things you hoard don't magically go away after some period of time.

FWIW neither hoard nor ration imply anything about permanence of the thing to me. Whether you were rationed bread or you hoarded bread, the bread isn't going to be usable forever. At the same time whether you were rationed sugar or hoarded sugar, the sugar isn't going to expire (with good storage). Rationed/hoarded do imply, to me, something different about how the quantity came to be though. Rationed being given or…

Isn't hoarding means you can get more bread ? While rationing means: "here is 1kg, use it however you want but you can't get more".

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by foota »

jjani wrote: post #542
foota wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is sort of what it implies, but I don't think that's what's actually happening on the backend. I was looking at this yesterday though and I agree that it's all a bit hand-wavy. I feel for them somewhat though because it's hand-wavy because it's a difficult problem to solve. They're essentially offering spot instances.

Or go here: https://claude.ai/upgrade/max . What does it say on top, on the actual pricing page? Max plan 5x more usage than Pro $100.00/month + tax Save 50% 20x more usage than Pro $200.00/month + tax Especially with the "save 50%", if they're not actually offering 4x that of 5x, that's easily illegal false advertising in half the territories Anthropic's customers are located in.

I want to say again that I don't think their plan pricing is straightforward, but (at least when I was looking at it the other day) I came away with the (correct, imo) impression that the 5x and 20x were just marketing terms and I should take it with a grain of salt. I agree it's not literally what it sounds like.

I think the disconnect here is that the 5x or 20x is true within a single session (and you'll see their website seems to always say this, clearly their legal team went over it with a fine tooth comb). The above about weekly quotas etc., isn't within a single session so the 5 or 20x no longer applies.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by tomhow »

sva_ wrote: post #337
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #88

I'm probably not going to hit the weekly limit, but it makes me nervous that the limit is weekly as opposed to every 36 hours or something. If I do hit the limit, that's it for the entire week —a long time to be without a tool I've grown accustomed to! I feel like someone is going to reply that I'm too reliant on Claude or something. Maybe that's true, but I'd feel the same about the prospect of loosing ripgrep for a…

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Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by 14123newsletter »

sneak wrote: post #414
forty wrote: post #362

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It makes me sad that devs start relying on proprietary online services to be able to work. We have been lucky enough to have FOSS tools to do everything and not to have to rely on any specific service or company to work and some of us are deciding to become like Monsanto-addicted farmers who forgot how to do their jobs without something they have to pay every month.

We can and did work without it. It just makes us many times faster. Nothing about using an LLM removes skills and abilities you already had before it.

>Nothing about using an LLM removes skills and abilities you already had before it.

Funny story: The widespread of Knorr soup stock already made people unable to cook their own stock soup, or even worse, the skill to season their soup from just basic, fresh ingredients.

Source: my mom.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by parineum »

brookst wrote: post #462
landl0rd wrote: post #357

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You can tell how it’s intentional with both OpenAI and Anthropic by how they’re intentionally made opaque. I cant see a nice little bar with how much I’ve used versus have left on the given rate limits so it’s pressuring users to hoard. Because it prevents them from budgeting it out and saying “okay I’ve used 1/3 of my quota and it’s Wednesday, I can use more faster.”

I think the simple product prioritization explanation makes way more sense than a a second-order conspiracy to trick people into hoarding. Reality is probably that there’s a backlog item to implement a view, but it’s hard to prioritize over core features.

> Reality is probably that there’s a backlog item to implement a view, but it’s hard to prioritize over core features.

It's even harder to prioritize when the feature you pay to develop probably costs you money.

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