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> I like being able to extract the most value out of the lowest time investment Biking to work using Strava is like this for me. It gamifies exercise in a very addictive manner. Getting a PR, being quickest on a segment or becoming a local legend. There is always someone or something to beat.
I had to back off that and instead do other games (ie, wandrer.earth gives you points for "new miles") because I got a bit too competitive and borderline dangerous. Besides, I got records and fastest times when e.g. wind was at my back or the lights all went my way - so I knew it wasn't just my effort & just happenstance. I still use Strava - mostly as a personal blog of my efforts & take a picture of wildlife or cra…
Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality
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Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality
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I'm a pretty proficient cyclist (lifetime mileage in the tens of thousands) but there have still been a handful of incidents where I've been very grateful to have had a helmet. It might be the case that helmets are a net negative for casual riders. But whenever I've done a spontaneous unplanned dismount at 20mph I didn't find that knowing how to fall helped me much.
> But whenever I've done a spontaneous unplanned dismount at 20mph I didn't find that knowing how to fall helped me much. What was the circumstances (type of road and type of bike)? Have you touched the ground with any other parts of body except of palms, elbows and knees? If yes then consider to keep learning how to fall because your falling skill is not that proficient. If not then the helmet was not that useful.
I've done judo for years, but I don't think knowing how to fall helps much when you get hit by a car.
Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality
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Interesting. What kind of exercise do you do? and how do you define Zone 2 (there are many contradicting definitions out there)? I would try going a bit to zone 3/4 at times (of course while being careful not to injure yourself) not only to get the 'noticeable' positive effect, but also because it seems like you get bored/frustrated a lot in your workouts and it doesn't have to be that boring. Anyway keep at it, I ho…
Well aside from weight lifting I mostly use the stair machine because I feel that it best matches the activity that I do like to do sometimes (hiking). I was defining zone 2 mainly by how it feels. Not too hard and where I can breathe fairly normally and easily have a conversation. But also by the heartrate being in the 65-75% range, so for age 36 I was keeping it around 125-130. My resting heart rate is 52 but not s…
Its possible your max HR is way above your age (the 220 - age thing is really inaccurate). You can buy a chest strap / get properly tested to find out.
I would try to make at least some of the workouts a bit more challenging - you can try pick up running. Or if you're working the stairs machine, do it faster and for longer for at least part of the time. This will not only make it more interesting for you - its also the only way to improve your vO2 max if all you're doing is 3 workouts a week (and a higher v02 max should be your goal is you're thinking about longevity / health).
As for energy levels - I meant in general. After hard workouts I can be quite exhausted for 24 hours sometimes. That's normal. But my sleep is usually higher quality and the day after I'm a bit more vital. My mood is more stabilized etc.
Anyway good luck! I hope you'll take away from this that its OK to change /mix things up and see what works for you.
Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality
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Source?
Doug McGuff, "Body by Science". Downvotes to my very helpful and lifesaving original comment is by losers who will run till they die.
You’re getting downvoted because of name calling, not because you have a different view.
“Losers who will run till they die”
“Bunch of amateurs”
That level of inflammatory discourse ain’t welcome here.
Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality
#545Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doug McGuff, "Body by Science". Downvotes to my very helpful and lifesaving original comment is by losers who will run till they die.
You’re getting downvoted because of name calling, not because you have a different view. “Losers who will run till they die” “Bunch of amateurs” That level of inflammatory discourse ain’t welcome here.
truth is bitter, but it's good medicine.
This level of stupidity ain't welcome to my brain either.
Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality
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Try cycling, it uses completely different set of leg muscles and its my goto when my knees start hurting. The two sports also complements each other very well since the muscle groups support each other and cardiovascular side of things are the same.
Careful there. By combining running and cycling, you’re 2/3 of the way to triathlons. And why suck at 1 sport when you can suck at 3?
This is a question I've been asking myself, the future looks wet.
Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality
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The problem is that, if you're in a position where you are having serious depression, for example, it doesn't really matter how objectively or subjectively helpful it is, you can't even bother getting motivated to do things you are certain you enjoy, let alone something unknown. This is the same problem with CPAP machines - they nominally have a huge efficacy rate, and a rock-bottom rate of people sticking to them, b…
Can you please elaborate? You’re saying that CPAP is effective but people don’t use it consistently, and insurance monitors its use and if they determine the % of use is lower than 95%, insurance will bill you instead? I thought people who require CPAP have severe enough sleep apnea that they could die from the lack of oxygen. Also how is this related to depression, you said “this is the same problem” after you menti…
Chronic sleep disruptions that are treatable with CPAP machines are also strongly correlated with depression. Improving the effectiveness of sleep is a contributing factor to positive mental state.
Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality
#548Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is that, if you're in a position where you are having serious depression, for example, it doesn't really matter how objectively or subjectively helpful it is, you can't even bother getting motivated to do things you are certain you enjoy, let alone something unknown. This is the same problem with CPAP machines - they nominally have a huge efficacy rate, and a rock-bottom rate of people sticking to them, b…
Can you please elaborate? You’re saying that CPAP is effective but people don’t use it consistently, and insurance monitors its use and if they determine the % of use is lower than 95%, insurance will bill you instead? I thought people who require CPAP have severe enough sleep apnea that they could die from the lack of oxygen. Also how is this related to depression, you said “this is the same problem” after you menti…
The parallel intended was that if you propose a solution that is technically a fix but not feasible for some reason beyond preference, it's not going to help.
CPAP machines are often prescribed for people who are not necessarily at acute risk of death so much as having no consistent high quality sleep, which has a lot of complicated possible knock-on effects. Unfortunately, since it takes a long time sometimes to notice positive effects, while they're uncomfortable to use from the start (among other reasons), it becomes difficult to convince people to keep using them for unseen benefits. (To my understanding, yes, insurance will just stop paying for it if you don't hit some threshold of usage. I've not had insurance that did that, but I have personally known multiple people who had to avoid certain activities because they would have been away from electricity for too long.)
Similarly, if you suggest exercise, an activity that requires a significant investment of mental effort for many people to engage in absent habit, as a sole treatment for a condition where people sometimes cannot manage to invest enough effort to eat, an activity which many people enjoy doing, it will not be constructive.
(I'm not arguing against either as part of a larger treatment plan, but if you don't consider the reasons that people might not have done them beyond "I didn't know it was an option", then you will often end up giving advice that is technically correct but not usefully actionable.)
Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality
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For HN's that want to get active, I cannot suggest getting a (higher tier) Garmin watch enough. I know you have the money so just drop the $800. It's stats on stats on stats and essentially creates a "character health" panel for your own body. Charts, metrics, real time tracking and exportable data. There are achievement badges and social connections if that's your thing too (good for you and your SO). For me, being…
It's not about the money, man. At a price like $800 you could hire out a personal trainer for 3 months of twice weekly sessions. No way some wrist gadget is going to do the average computer weenie more good than receiving regularly scheduled and personally tailored training regimens.
It's not always black and white. I have a high end Garmin and pay quite a bit for personal training. Personally if I was forced between the two, I'd pick the Garmin and all the functions/training regimens it contains. However, I'm the type of person that gets a lot of joy from being outdoors mountain biking or trail running. Spent years in the gym getting big and all that, but it just doesn't do it for me like shredding down steep embankments or hitting large gaps on a bike does, examining all my data and stats afterwards.
IMO, it's all about what drives someone - if they are going to be more motivated by someone training them, then they should do that. But if they are going to have more longevity by paying for an overpriced watch, maybe that's the better choice. Maybe even both? One thing is for sure - speaking in absolutes doesn't apply here.
Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality
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Not agreeing with the (somewhat amusing) limited heartbeats theory, but even under that theory, cardio is beneficial since it lowers your resting heart rate. e.g. my HR is 50 thanks to running an hour a day, my HR during those runs are between 120 to 150, that gives 50x60x23+150x60 == 78000 beats a day a non runner might've a HR of 60 (being very generous, most folks are well above 70), that gives 60x60x24 == 86400 b…
For most adults, a resting heart rate above about 60 bpm is a sign of serious underlying pathology. Doctors usually won't recommend medical treatment unless resting heart rate exceeds 100 bpm, but over time there is a significantly increased risk of premature death.
> For most adults, a resting heart rate above about 60 bpm is a sign of serious underlying pathology.
Sources? The claim I most recently heard is that 60-80 bpm is within normal range (which itself surprised me, because I've usually been told a target of 60 bpm resting heartrate, leaving aside the 40 bpm achievable by some athletes).