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Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality

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Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality

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Post by gkfasdfasdf »

danielbln wrote: post #351
keybored wrote: post #266

Some of my peers are deep into running. I don’t get it. Running is sometimes fun for me but most often painful. Then I overheard one of them (the fittest) say to a budding runner that he [should] do mostly easy sessions. Okay what’s easy to him? He said that so slow that it can feel awkward and unnatural. What? Then I searched around and found out about Zone 2 and how you should do most of your work in that zone when…

I've been streak running (so running at least a mile per day with no exceptions, mostly 5ks during the week, 10-20k on weekends) for almost 8 years (2817 days). The single best tip I give to everyone is "slow down! run slow!" Of course, almost no-one adheres to it unless they are already well practiced. It's just deeply ingrained in peoples heads that "only if it's hard or painful it must work". Then people check out…

One way to easily achieve those three rules is to switch to barefoot-style shoes. They force you to slow down and take small steps. Don't have to go full 5-finger shoes either, just something with zero drop, a flexible sole and minimal cushion. I did this and my shin-splints and knee pain went away.

Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

keybored wrote: post #266

Some of my peers are deep into running. I don’t get it. Running is sometimes fun for me but most often painful. Then I overheard one of them (the fittest) say to a budding runner that he [should] do mostly easy sessions. Okay what’s easy to him? He said that so slow that it can feel awkward and unnatural. What? Then I searched around and found out about Zone 2 and how you should do most of your work in that zone when…

I find way more enjoyable zone 4-5 training, but i do shadow boxing in front of the mirror, so it might differ. It's intense. zone 2 means it's a long thing that i don't want to do and i have time to think about it

Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality

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Post by jajko »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #379
jajko wrote: post #363

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Yes this is annoying in all these same debates which point to Netherland / Denmark - the infrastructure elsewhere is just not there. Lanes shared with cars (or just taking away from car lane so no normal cars fits in anymore) isn't a solution, just adding friction danger zone. Or dedicated bicycle lanes wide enough for a single row of cyclists, if even that. Also look at those 'old' basic bikes they use there, you do…

> Yes this is annoying in all these same debates which point to Netherland / Denmark - the infrastructure elsewhere is just not there That's why we point to them. The infrastructure didn't exist in Holland either, until they choose to build it.

Yes but there was room for it, you noticed the wide streets? Most European city centers don't have that extra room for 1 dedicated bike path on each side, at least not cities I've lived in. That's cca 4m each side requirement, you would have to tear down whole rows of 150-500 year old buildings which are often protected.

Even Amsterdam has streets which have 0 room, but generally city center is blocked/too expensive to most car traffic to even enter so they manage.

If it would be a easy problem to solve, it would be done or at least almost done at this point. And something tells me it requires certain type of population where respect to others is way above average, that's not granted.

Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality

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Post by dilyevsky »

weatherlite wrote: post #252
verst wrote: post #24

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My VO2 max from running definitely transfers to cycling. Doesn't mean I'm an amazing cyclist but at least cardio isn't my limiting factor.

It transfers to an extent. Lance Armstrong marathon PR is 3 hours from what I read, which is a great result for an amateur runner but totally unimpressive for a professional endurance athlete, let alone one of the best in history. I was actually a bit surprised that's the fastest Lance could do and to me it shows it doesn't cross over that well.

Not surprising at all. Vo2 in general is not great metric for elites and specificity is king. Which is why you rarely ever see elites cross train much

Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

For people who misinterpreted the title like me, thinking that exercising is negative:

Conclusion

Our findings showed that high CRF is strongly associated with lower risk of premature mortality, incident chronic conditions (ie, hypertension, heart failure, stroke, atrial fibrillation, dementia and depression), and poor prognosis in those with existing chronic conditions. The consistency of the evidence across a variety of health outcomes demonstrates the importance of CRF and the need to incorporate this measure in routine clinical and public health practice. Future studies should focus on outcomes with limited evidence and where the certainty of the evidence was rated as very low by improving study quality.

Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality

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Post by com2kid »

eimrine wrote: post #329
com2kid wrote: post #184

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> Me and my bicyclist friends have never injured a head while falling down from bike Back when I did bike, I'd fall off and hit my (helmeted) head once a year or so. I was always thankful for having a helmet. Granted it was typically doing something stupid (jumping a curb or such), but still, I was thankful for having a helmet!

Can you describe the most common scenario of how your helmet got broken?

Once a helmet takes a serious hit, it is considered used up and it needs to be replaced. The interior protective core has been compromised.

Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality

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Post by chaorace »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #460
Fricken wrote: post #243

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Exercise is a four letter word for many on HN. Content posted here touting the various benefits of exercise is always met with mental gymnastics from commenters who would rather do anything but go out and break a sweat.

For HN's that want to get active, I cannot suggest getting a (higher tier) Garmin watch enough. I know you have the money so just drop the $800. It's stats on stats on stats and essentially creates a "character health" panel for your own body. Charts, metrics, real time tracking and exportable data. There are achievement badges and social connections if that's your thing too (good for you and your SO). For me, being…

It's not about the money, man. At a price like $800 you could hire out a personal trainer for 3 months of twice weekly sessions. No way some wrist gadget is going to do the average computer weenie more good than receiving regularly scheduled and personally tailored training regimens.

Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality

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Post by Workaccount2 »

chaorace wrote: post #468
Workaccount2 wrote: post #460

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For HN's that want to get active, I cannot suggest getting a (higher tier) Garmin watch enough. I know you have the money so just drop the $800. It's stats on stats on stats and essentially creates a "character health" panel for your own body. Charts, metrics, real time tracking and exportable data. There are achievement badges and social connections if that's your thing too (good for you and your SO). For me, being…

It's not about the money, man. At a price like $800 you could hire out a personal trainer for 3 months of twice weekly sessions. No way some wrist gadget is going to do the average computer weenie more good than receiving regularly scheduled and personally tailored training regimens.

Given that most weenies aren't crazy about regular people (especially the fitness types), that the watch lasts more than 3 months, and that weenies love dense character stat screens and leveling, I really could not disagree more. It's a borderline science fiction cyborg health tracking device.

Also, for most of the weenies here, an $800 purchase isn't too rough. They have decent $500 and $300 dollar options, but the available amount stats and tracking goes down.

Re: Cardio fitness is a strong, consistent predictor of morbidity and mortality

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Post by superhuzza »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #393
zknill wrote: post #390

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Two things: 1. You want to land on the mid-foot. Heel-striking puts a lot of pressure up you leg and joints as you are basically braking with every step. Forefoot strike puts a lot of pressure on your calf and achilles as you have to 'bounce' on every foot-strike to support your body weight. A mid-foot strike is the most efficient transition of energy into and back out of the ground for forward motion. Small steps he…

I’ve never understood what a mid-foot strike is. My foot has an arch. My heel touches the ground, ball of foot and toes touch the ground. Mid-foot doesn’t.

Heel strike - heel lands first

Midfoot strike - heel and ball land same time

Forefoot strike - ball of foot lands first

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