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Re: Australia to ban engineered stone

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post #374

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You pass a law giving a class of inspector the right to enter premises where building works appear to be progressing. You strictly limit what they are permitted to observe and record and require recording of reasonable suspicion. Refusal to grant entry is itself an offence. Approaches like this would work but are also a huge can of worms.

>You pass a law giving a class of inspector the right to enter premises In most countries (and I'd expect to include Australia), there cannot be a blanket invasion of privacy - and it'd require a court order. The amount of paper would would be ridiculous, then what if I do that on my own, or I used a cousin to do it for me, for free?

As the customer of a builder, I would very much approve of someone making sure said builders work wasn't dogshit.

Seriously, who in their right mind is going to deny entry to an auditor making sure that your builder isn't an idiot?

Re: Australia to ban engineered stone

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post #427

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Advertising is PR, not lobbying. Lobbying often involves implicit or explicit offers of campaign funding, PAC support/opposition, and gifts that skirt the edge of what is legally bribery.

No, lobbying is “attempting to influence the government”. Advertising about proposed bills is 100% lobbying. Without any funding to the politician involved, a lobbyist’s job is to convince the politician of voting a particular way. A sleazy lobbyist may try money in indirect ways for/against the politician, but a regular one will try to raise awareness through advertising and public pressure. It’s all lobbying.

Lobbyists may engage in PR activity, but that does not make PR activity lobbying.

Lobbying has a pretty clear definition which you are trying to stretch here.

Let me put it this way: Airing an ad about a government rep or piece of legislation is PR or advertising. Using the threat or promise of airing that ad to try to talk a politician into doing something is lobbying.

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