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Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Post by gattilorenz »

im3w1l wrote: post #484
10u152 wrote: post #432

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Related, I work with industrial control systems. We’d call this “smoke and mirrors”. Sometimes the client would insist on seeing a small portion of a large project working well before it was ready. They’d misunderstand that 90% of the bulk of the work is not visible to the user but they’d want to see a finished state. We’d set up a dummy HMI and have someone pressing buttons on it for the demo, and someone in the nex…

To me it sounds like a useful thing, for communicating your vision and getting early feedback on whether you are building the right thing. Like uh, a live action blueprint. Let's say the client is like "Email???? That's no good. It needs to be a text message". Now you have saved yourself the trouble of implementing email.

It definitely is a thing, we literally teach this to CS students as part of the design process in the UX design course.

It’s called prototyping, in this case it would be a hi-fi prototype, and it lets you communicate ideas, test the implementation and try out alternatives before committing to your final product.

Lo-fi prototyping usually precedes it and is done on pen and paper, Figma, or similar very basic approaches.

Google (unsurprisingly) uses it and has instructional videos about it: https://youtu.be/lusOgox4xMI

Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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bombcar wrote: post #371
hot_gril wrote: post #307

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Is paid MS Teams is more or less common than paid GSuite? It's hard to find stats on this. GSuite is the better product IMO, but MS has a stronger b2b reputation, and anecdotally I hear more about people using Teams.

Nobody pays for Teams, but everyone pays for Office, and if you get Teams for free with it ...

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Post by motbus3 »

dvsfish wrote: post #425

I did this at university. It was our first comp sci class ever, we were given raspberry pi's. We had no coding experience or guidance, and were asked to create "something". All we had to work with was information on how to communicate with the pi using putty. Oddly, this assignment didn't require us to submit code, but simply demonstrate it working. My group (3 of us) bought a moisture sensor to plug into the pi, and…

Well, you literally had a backend

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Post by masteruvpuppetz »

motbus3 wrote: post #543
dvsfish wrote: post #425

I did this at university. It was our first comp sci class ever, we were given raspberry pi's. We had no coding experience or guidance, and were asked to create "something". All we had to work with was information on how to communicate with the pi using putty. Oddly, this assignment didn't require us to submit code, but simply demonstrate it working. My group (3 of us) bought a moisture sensor to plug into the pi, and…

Well, you literally had a backend

more like backhand lol

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Post by tsimionescu »

theGnuMe wrote: post #514
lmm wrote: post #459

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Interesting how it seems like MS may have been right this time? They were able to milk Office for years, and despite seeming like it might, Google didn't eat their lunch.

People still email word docs around. It’s nuts. Maybe Exchange is smart enough to intercept them and say “hey use this online one instead”? At least for intra-org..

I think the ability to actually email the docs around is half the value proposition. Having to always refer back to the cloud versions is annoying as hell when you're not actually collaborating, just showing someone a thing.

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Post by onion2k »

DonnyV wrote: post #259

This is so crazy. Google invented transformers which is the bases for all these models. How do they keep fumbling like this over and over. Google Docs created in 2006! Microsoft is eating their lunch. Google creates the ability to change VM's in place and makes a fully automated datacenter. Amazon and Microsoft are killing them in the cloud. Google has been working on self driving longer than anyone. Tesla is catchin…

None of that matters. They'll still make heaps of profit long into the future unless someone beats them in Search or Ads.

AI is a threat there, but it'd require an AI company to transform the culture of Internet use to stop people 'Googling', and that will require two things: something significantly better than Google Search that's worth switching to, and a company that is willing to reject whatever offer Google makes to buy it. Neither is very likely.

Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Post by choppaface »

teleforce wrote: post #545

Is the link to the article broken and anyone has it archived somewhere? I wish people stop posting Twitter messages to HN and provide a link directly to the original article. What's next, post on HN on an Instagram post?

Here's a related article: https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/7/23992737/google-gemini-mi...

And another: https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/07/googles-best-gemini-demo-w...

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Post by CrayKhoi »

replwoacause wrote: post #151
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #66

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Gemini Pro is available on Bard now. Ultra is not yet available.

Yeah and have you tried it? It’s as dogshit as the original Bard.

I've been using Gemini in Bard since the launch, with respect to coding it is outperforming GPT4 in my opinion. There is some convergence in the answers,but Bard is outputting really good code now.

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Post by TerrifiedMouse »

eloisius wrote: post #512
lmm wrote: post #469

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> You can tell a story without making up fiction. Just say you don’t know when you don’t know. The point is that humans can't in general, because we don't actually know which parts of what we "remember" are real and which parts are our brain filling in the blanks. And maybe it's the same for nonhuman intelligences too.

It’s hard even when you don’t take into consideration that you don’t know what you’ve misremembered. Try writing a memoir. You’ll realize you never actually remember what anyone says, but caveating your dialog with “and then I think they said something like” would make horrible reading.

Don’t people just bulk qualify the dialogue, e.g. “I don’t remember the exact words. Tom said … then Dick replied … something like that”.

Often we don’t quote people and instead provide a high level description of what they said, e.g. “Harry described the problems with his car.”, where detail is omitted.

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