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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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shortstuffsushi wrote: post #504
mizzack wrote: post #92

Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.

As someone who bought a mid-2018 with the escape key on the touchbar, then watched the next model have it's own key, then watched all these ports get added back... I'm extremely frustrated to say the least. Trade in is valued at $840. If I had known either of these two updates would have gone " backwards " like this, I would have waited to purchase

Funny you say backwards: this 2016 review predicted this (in its way) https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/10/benjamin_button_reviews_the...

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by eugeniub »

trebor wrote: post #521
mizzack wrote: post #92

Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.

Actually, they kept one of the oldest mistakes: overcharging. $400 to upgrade from 16GB RAM to 32GB. $200 to upgrade to 1TB SSD. These guys control the whole supply chain without middlemen like WD, Samsung, Crucial, etc — and they charge basically double what anyone else charges. I'm not paying $2k for a laptop below what I need as a developer, when Apple is ridiculous. Inflation is murder right now, and they JACK th…

This is literally what they have always done and they don’t see a reason to stop

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by Factorium »

neogodless wrote: post #287
Factorium wrote: post #246

I wish we could get a Macbook Air in these screen sizes. I don't need the extra power, just the bigger screen.

You can order a Macbook Pro 14" with the M1 (not M1 Pro) for $2000. EDIT: My mistake, it's an 8-core M1 Pro with 14-core GPU (so neither the 8-core M1 with 8-core GPU, nor the 10-core M1 Pro with 16-core GPU) at that price.

To be specific, 14" or 16" Macbook Air closer to the $999 of the 13".

I guess that would cannibalise sales of the Macbook Pro, but the M1 Macbook Air is totally sufficient for regular browsing and officework.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by bmitc »

ksec wrote: post #118

HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

The thickness argument (i.e., excuse) came from Apple, not users. They did the same with the 3.5mm audio jack on phones, claiming they needed the space to make things thinner. Meanwhile, phones like the LG V35 were thinner with the same IP rating but still had an audio jack.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by Joeri »

chrisBob wrote: post #235

I have been waiting on this announcement to buy a new Mac, but now that they are out, I don't think I will buy one. The prices are 2x a Macbook Air, but the utility for me doesn't match. If the 14" was closer to the previous 13" MBP price of $1500 I would be ordering one now, but I will be getting a Macbook Air instead. Note to Veterans: Apple gives a 10% Veterans discount on everything, including the refurbished sto…

It was obvious for me when apple released the m1 13 inch pro next to the air that the 14 inch would land at the higher price point. That’s why I immediately bought the air. If I were buying a new macbook today, I would be tempted by the 14 inch pro but I would probably still buy the m1 air.

The air is still a very nice laptop. It is really fast, faster than the 9600K in my imac. And it has a beautiful screen with rich colors that I never use at max brightness indoors.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by hbOY5ENiZloUfnZ »

dntrkv wrote: post #414
nharada wrote: post #53

Happy to see they added Magsafe but ALSO still support charging via the USB3 ports.

Controversial opinion, but I think adding Magsafe back (along with the other ports) was a step backward for the industry. Apple pushed the whole industry to standardize on one connector for everything. If anyone really needed those other ports, a small $30 portable hub would add them all back. Magsafe 3 is just another connector that will add more e-waste and proprietary cables to the mix. It's nice that they kept th…

At least it is a USB-C terminated on the charger end. That means you can reuse existing USB-PD chargers while only needing to replace the cable.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by yarcob »

belltaco wrote: post #407

If they'd only add touchscreens. Sigh. Edit: Ouch, so many downvotes just for asking for a feature. Weird.

Touchscreens are the big missing feature on macOS.

It's not useful as a primary input method, but after using a Windows Surface computer for some time I'm surprised how often the touch display is useful.

Lots of websites are optimized for touch / mobile first. Wether you are filling a form or watching Netflix or Disney plus, touching the screen is just much more convenient. Keyboard navigation is increasingly an afterthought on many websites.

Macs now support running iOS apps. Using them without a touch screen is going to be a very poor experience.

And finally, some things like annotating PDFs are things that are really cumbersome without a touch display -- when I need to do that on a Mac, I just print out the page because using the track pad or mouse for annotations is just not an option for me.

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Post by amelius »

msoad wrote: post #455

When I interviewed at Apple years ago there was a poster on the wall that had a picture of a MacBook with a MagSafe charger connected. A kid was crossing by the desk the laptop was sitting on it and it was about to cross the charging cable. Without MagSafe laptop could've fallen on this kid's head. The writing on the poster said: Come work with people who invented MagSafe to save children's lives. (or something simil…

In another commercial, a child walks near the edge of a cliff, loses balance and grabs the one thing in his reach: a laptop charger cable. Unfortunately, it's MagSafe, and the child falls into the abyss ...
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