I've been waiting for this editor! Is there a way to run a nodejs debugger in it?
Nova by Panic
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Re: Nova by Panic
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100% of the time for me, I wouldn't wipe my butt with a trackpad, let alone use one for work. It's always fun for me to meet people who do things the complete opposite I do them. It's oddly satisfying, like, I'm glad someone is my polar opposite on an issue or activity.
It’s like we all have an evil doppelgänger out there’re of us who is religiously fervent about trackpads
Honestly, I think of any number of issues in the world that we have to navigate, and I am truly grateful that so few of them require a trackpad.
Re: Nova by Panic
#543I see a lot of folks here comparing this to VS Code and asking "Why would I use this instead?" — I am exactly on the opposite side of that equation. Why would I use VS Code when I can use this? I've been using Atom for most of the decade (plus a bit of Sublime, and TextMate before), and I've loved being able to hack it to look and feel exactly how I want. There's a ton of custom CSS in my setup. Now, Atom is slow. Th…
> Why would I use VS Code when I can use this?
Because of the wealth of extensions available for VS Code.
An editor is only as good as the number of developer-hours that has gone into writing extensions for it.
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All the time. But more to the point: Apple has proven it _can_ be that good, so I want a control that _is_ that good. Why would I ever go backwards?
Because like they just pointed out, you can only use this magical touchpad on a Mac running MacOS. It's not like Apple benevolently gave this touchpad to the world, for our betterment and happiness, but for the singular, exclusive purpose of luring you into their ecosystem. But you don't benefit when they profit, you were the prize. You should demand they give it away for free, because you should not give a shit abou…
...what?
I pay Apple for hardware and software. I get good value in exchange. I don't particularly care beyond that.
You're trying to change this into an argument about freedom and open source. It's not. I want a trackpad that feels premium, the same reason I buy a nice car. I do not care how it's done and I do not care about the price.
tl;dr If the Linux ecosystem could provide it, good - I'd consider it. Put up or shut up.
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To be fair if you get a few plugins for web dev running vim/nvim does slow down a quite a bit.
I have a zillion plugins and vim is still snappy. Plus, editing requires so much less effort that it'd be better even if there was lag, which there isn't.
Good to know, it might be an issue with my config in that case. Agree on the editing side though.
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I'd love to know how it goes and any significant upsides/downsides.
Ok, so some feedback: I'm sad to report I stopped testing already. For my particular job I tend to debug and work with large files, especially JSON. A lot of debugging apps and looking through large crash logs, then looking at application states. This is probably not typical, but it's crucial to me. The transition is made hard because of the odd default key mappings (they hotkey editor is very difficult to use. I wen…
I see. So I think I won't be giving it a shot too, at least for now. Let's see where Nova evolves, if it does. If it becomes some obscure hipster tool where developers with some niche need use, I'll leave it alone. If the baby of Xcode and Vscode grows up to be a wonderful, mature IDE, sure, I'll give it a try.
Thank you for your detailed review, greatly appreciated!
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>I can't imagine the world of hurt, discomfort and frustration of developing against a lib set I can't read source code of or improve. Thank you . It boggles the mind that anyone who can write code would ever use a closed source operating system.
If linux wouldn't require you to send patches upstream that would be great. Last time I checked the font rendering was off. So Linux seems to need to catch up to system 7 maybe? Certainly it's lagging osx 10.0.
I laughed so much reading this, certainly not untrue.
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For a text editor, why not just drop BiDi? I guess it sucks if you use a BiDi language for your comments, but there’s nothing per se wrong in making a solution that doesn’t work for everyone around the world if it works better for a subset of people.
You'd also want BiDi for general-purpose "text" documents like markdown. There are many aspects of text rendering that aren't necessarily relevant here (think: word- and line-breaking) but directionality strikes me as a major feature.
Major feature for who?
I don't think saying to Hebrew/Arabic programmers "sorry, this product isn't for you because it would require a large amount of effort and we can't support it" is an unreasonable thing for a small shop to do. Yes, Apple and Microsoft and Gnome should support RTL because it's important for someone to do it, but there's nothing wrong with saying "this product isn't designed to solve all problems in all languages".
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Do you use it with lsp-mode or similar? One would imagine that most CPU load because of rescanning would happen in the language server, and those should be the same between VS Code and Emacs.
Yeah I tried to use Emacs, but the LSP had way worse performance than in VSCode and was very glitchy. I was disappointed because I really enjoyed Emacs in other ways, but I couldn't get that to work reliably. Maybe I was doing something weird.
When was that?
Emacs 27 (released recently) with native JSON support was reportedly a huge improvement.
The `native-comp` branch on master is receiving great feedback too.