Nova by Panic • Hacker News Board

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by kevmo314 » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 5:39 AM UTC

1986 wrote: post #375

FullyFunctional wrote: post #99

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I change platforms many times a day (macOS, Linux, occasionally Windows) and VS Code being cross platform is essential for my use of it. Being Mac-only is a complete deal-breaker.

How do you deal with the difference in common keyboard shortcuts / text selection with keyboard (i.e. option vs ctrl, command vs ctrl)? I also go back and forth between macOS and Linux and it always takes me 30 min to get the correct muscle memory back.

I have a mac vscode running alongside a windows vscode connected with synergy with a physical kb and mouse. At first the different shortcuts were annoying but with enough practice I just got used to them. Some of the lesser used ones like delete file I have to resort to using the mouse on mac, but I do try to make a conscious decision to learn both sets of shortcuts.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by sudhirj » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 5:41 AM UTC

andrethegiant wrote: post #5

The hover effect on the CTA is amazing.

Want to see a blog post about how that effect was made more than the editor :/

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by seventhtiger » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 5:43 AM UTC

scott_w wrote: post #385

threentaway wrote: post #381

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Can you explain why this is such an important feature? How often are you writing code where you're not at your desk with a real keyboard and mouse?

100% of the time for me. I prefer the trackpad over the mouse.

Trackpads are really un-ergonomic when they're attached to the laptop. Both your wrist and neck are bent because the trackpad and screen are attached that way.

Consider getting a separate USB trackpad and putting it in a "mouse like" position so your wrist is straight and you can raise the laptop to just under eye level.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by jpcooper43 » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 5:45 AM UTC

firloop wrote: post #27

xavdid wrote: post #22

I really like their pricing structure here. If you want updates forever, it's functionally a subscription (which makes sense - constant updates require constant dev work). The key difference is that if you stop paying, you keep everything you've paid for previously (the app and all past updates). That's a _great_ way to do a subscription.

Sketch has the same subscription model.

But sadly Sketch is garbage now. I've gone from paying for v.x.0 - x.09 and its solid and stable. Now I pay $XX a year and it bricks with every update. It was a great program for awhile there. Its making me look at XD at this point... SMH

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by jpcooper43 » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 5:47 AM UTC

liendolucas wrote: post #395

More and more I see new apps being released and having a subscription model. Pay X for the tool plus Y every year to get updates. Paying 99$ and then 49$ each year is (at least for me) too much money and a no go. If after a year bugs are discovered on the purchase that I initially made, why shouldn't I receive that for free? Subscriptions are ok for services and I don't really care, but products shouldn't be on a sub…

Agreed 100%

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by Klonoar » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 5:52 AM UTC

threentaway wrote: post #381

sumedh wrote: post #345

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Do the Windows based laptops have a similar touchpad like the Mac which just works, last time I checked they did not.

Can you explain why this is such an important feature? How often are you writing code where you're not at your desk with a real keyboard and mouse?

All the time.

But more to the point: Apple has proven it _can_ be that good, so I want a control that _is_ that good. Why would I ever go backwards?

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by marmaduke » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 6:01 AM UTC

spiralganglion wrote: post #392

PascLeRasc wrote: post #180

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What do you think of Sublime? I'm like you and something about VS Code's design really bothers me. It's incredibly heavy and can't stop getting in my way. Sublime on the other hand feels like a sharp kitchen knife or a carbon road bike, it's amazingly light and nimble to use. I love it. Really what I miss is 2015-2018 Atom, but it seems like its time has gone.

Sublime has fantastic perf, and for the first while with Atom (when it struggled with any file bigger than a few dozen KB) I kept Sublime around for big files. But I don't like how Sublime looks. It doesn't look designed to me — it just looks like an accretion of features placed around the window. To me, that matters a lot. That is, after all, why I'm a Mac user. Why I'm fond of indie Mac software.

I get what you mean (I bought sublime text and merge) but

> It doesn't look designed to me — it just looks like an accretion of features placed around

isn’t a lot of programming like (despite our best efforts)?

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by ngrilly » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 6:04 AM UTC

threentaway wrote: post #381

sumedh wrote: post #345

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Do the Windows based laptops have a similar touchpad like the Mac which just works, last time I checked they did not.

Can you explain why this is such an important feature? How often are you writing code where you're not at your desk with a real keyboard and mouse?

MacBook’s touchpad is so good that I was not using the mouse anymore just a few weeks after having my first Mac. It happened naturally and at some point I just stopped connecting the mouse.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by p1necone » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 6:04 AM UTC

Brendinooo wrote: post #2

> Here's a little editor story for fun. During beta we found some bugs in Apple's text layout engine that we just could not fix. Our solution? Writing our own text layout manager… from scratch. Not only did this fix the bugs, but it also boosted our editor's performance. We're not messing around! Seems like there's nobody better than Panic at doing this sort of thing. They're willing to push Apple's UI forward, but t…

They entirely rewrote something because apples implementation wasn't good enough, that doesn't feel appley to me.

"Appley" would be living with the limitations of apples implementation because apple knows best, and they tried their hardest to lock you out from any alternative option.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by 0xcoffee » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 6:06 AM UTC

sumedh wrote: post #345

ddevault wrote: post #340

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>I can't imagine the world of hurt, discomfort and frustration of developing against a lib set I can't read source code of or improve. Thank you . It boggles the mind that anyone who can write code would ever use a closed source operating system.

Do the Windows based laptops have a similar touchpad like the Mac which just works, last time I checked they did not.

They do, when they introduced the precision touch-pad. However ironically it created a lot of problems in software that responded poorly to the high precision events. Chrome being one of the most obvious offenders, took months for them to finally fix it (hence edge scrolling so much nicer then chrome on its release).

These days it just works though.