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Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by aj7 »

darkpuma wrote: post #433
mstade wrote: post #296

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Happens all the time with any cables really. I've had many cables succumb to the good ol' lemme just adjust may chair right over your cable there type situations. Particularly when you have to run the cable to an awkwardly placed outlet.

> "Happens all the time with any cables really." That's such nonsense. I've never had a thinkpad cable wear out on me. I've got a whole box sitting around somewhere full of them because they never break. But thinkpad cables aren't unusually robust; Dell cables last just as long. Most cables last effectively forever unless you slam a door on them or something unreasonable like that. The only cables I've seen reliably…

Exactly. I have a DRAWER full of nasty ones.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by aj7 »

nutjob2 wrote: post #234
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So, on the power side of the equation, I have come to understand why they chose to go the direction they did. With the previous generation of MagSafe/MagSafe II power supplies, if the cable gets frayed, you have to replace the entire power supply. If the MagSafe connector gets hosed, you have to replace the entire power supply. Basically, if anything goes wrong beyond the AC input side, you have to replace the whole…

I always hated the MagSafe connectors because I almost always used my laptop with the power connected but not on a table or other hard surface (eg a bed), and it would invariably fall off constantly.

Or at least once a day.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by sooheon »

tzs wrote: post #383
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I think they really needed a transition design for 3-4 years that included USB-C but still had the "legacy" ports—in quotes because when they announced the C-only model I hadn't even seen a USB-C port or cable in real life yet. USB-A is nowhere near being on the way out yet. Especially when their own damn mobile devices still come with A cables. We're way into their attempt to push everything to USB-C but I went to T…

USB-C is baffling. Suppose you buy into the dream of one cable type for everything. So you buy printers, scanners, optical drives, external hard drives and SSDs, and so on that have USB-C connectors, and you buy USB-C flash drives, and buy USB-C to USB-C cables to hook it all up. But your computer only has two USB-C ports! No problem, you think. You've run into the same problem before with computers with USB-A connec…

Buy into the dream deeper: lose as many wires as possible. Of course some things just need to be connected, but plenty of other devices sync or operate OTA.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by sprafa »

ulfw wrote: post #515
sprafa wrote: post #265

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They’ve done enormous changes since 7 to improve it. 7 was absurd - buttons looked like simple text everywhere. I always had to toggle on a function where buttons became underlined so I could use the thing. There was huge criticism even in knowledgeable design circles (see Nielsen Norman who do usability studies) that it was really really objectively worst because it was so confusing. It’s a lot better now.

They’re still just text. Open Apple Mail and have a look.

I always have the underlining on so i wouldn’t be able to see it anymore. Seriously the underlining of links just makes sense.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by Traster »

jkw wrote: post #93

He’s making more money at Apple than he will leading his own design agency. This makes me think that he no longer finds his work compelling at Apple. Or Apple decided it’s time for a new leader, but wants things to have a soft landing.

I think it's more likely that he wants to be able to have more input on projects outside of Apple and Apple aren't happy with design consultancy being part of their business. So the obvious resolution is to let him be independent, safe in the knowledge that Apple will always have enough cash to pay whatever it takes to get him to work on their projects.

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helloindia wrote: post #482
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Android phones have been waterproof with 3.5mm jacks, for at least the past 5 years, maybe longer.

I don't know about other manufacturers, but the latest Google Pixel 3a & 3a XL which comes with the 3.5mm jack, aren't waterproof. https://www.teamandroid.com/2019/05/16/google-pixel-3a-water...

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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by sooheon »

jedberg wrote: post #416
tzs wrote: post #383

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USB-C is baffling. Suppose you buy into the dream of one cable type for everything. So you buy printers, scanners, optical drives, external hard drives and SSDs, and so on that have USB-C connectors, and you buy USB-C flash drives, and buy USB-C to USB-C cables to hook it all up. But your computer only has two USB-C ports! No problem, you think. You've run into the same problem before with computers with USB-A connec…

I think the dream of usb-c is daisy chaining the accessories. Haven’t seen one with an in and out port though!

My favorite example that I use every day is the LG ultrafine monitor, which both receives video from and sends power to my MBP with one cable.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by notafrog »

tasssko wrote: post #511
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I'd take asymmetric borders over having a large notch anyday. See S10+ next to an iphone XS Max [0]. It's subjective of course, but strictly looking at display & bezels the "which is more aesthetically pleasing" question is not even close [0] https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NG5Wd9Px40o/maxresdefault.jpg

I prefer the notch and no chin. These design decisions are difficult but ultimately the iPhone X was an impressive phone . The S10 is a nice phone too, to me both look good in the photo. Jony Ive has contributed great work to the design of mobile / personal computing products. Today I smile walking into a tech store and ooogling at the surface book, XPS and Lenovo. Peer pressure has improved the design across the boa…

I see no "notch and no chin" device in that picture. If anything, S10's "chin" looks smaller than iPhone X's "no chin".

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by ulfw »

sprafa wrote: post #544
ulfw wrote: post #515

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They’re still just text. Open Apple Mail and have a look.

I always have the underlining on so i wouldn’t be able to see it anymore. Seriously the underlining of links just makes sense.

True. But then I feel it’s just a website. Which is odd. Because even web apps don’t have underlined links
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