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Their statement on this issue opened by emphasizing how eager they are to help kill people: >I believe deeply in the existential importance of using AI to defend the United States and other democracies, and to defeat our autocratic adversaries. There is no universe where this can be described as anything close to ethical.

It's not controversial to say that democracy is a more ethical form of government than autocracy. It's also not controversial to say that violence is sometimes justified when it's in self-defence or to prevent a greater injustice from happening. So what's the ethical objection to that statement?

You gave two statements which are different from what I quoted.

The idea of "defend[ing] the United States and other democracies" and "defeat[ing] our autocratic adversaries" are always the stated reasons for US military action. Iraq was certainly an "autocratic adversary" and hundreds of thousands of people died from the war there. Vietnam was about "defending democracies" and resulted in millions of people dying. These are atrocities on an incomprehensible scale.

The ethical objection is very simple. War is evil, and the military is in the business of war.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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1. Figma (in progress) 2. Most entry level jobs for current graduates in white collar fields. (See hiring rates for these positions) 3. Thousands of layoffs (mostly attributed to AI use, while not 100%, the Anthropic's specific marketing push has a huge influence on this - unlike OAI and other labs) 4. All low-code products/startups 5. Web agencies who did small websites for local businesses While AI industry push is…

This is not destroying. This is success.

> This is success

For who?

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#533

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Honestly, if Skynet were possible, Anthropic would probably build it first and claim they had to because OpenAI is bad.

And then regulatory capture it to death. Seriously, Anthropic is top notch in their coding models, but they are not the good guys in the tech vs. product for humanity's sake debate.

No such thing as good or bad guys in business, only good or bad action. If you NitpickLawyer has a business, I'm sure there will be people calling for your head, no matter what your intentions are. The bigger the customer base the more "evil" you'd become. Everyone have their own interest which often conflict.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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I wonder if he had to answer a few Leetcode / Codility problems first.

Would have been great to hear that his inability to do the interview memorization bullshit as a senior was why he didn't get hired somewhere like OpenAI. lol. Except the good companies probably dont make you do silly stupid outdated interview practices without the tools you can actually use on the job today, right?

Karpathy is a co-founder of OpenAI.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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yeah but i don't think there's any large org which is 'good guys'. Anyone who wants to become a monopoly or very very large is probably suffering from some sort of a neural condition (psychosis, if plural) which we will study 100 years from now. Right now they are rewarded but I think our little minds forget to take the negative externalities into account. I am working on a short story on this topic which is set in 2…

yeah but i don't think there's any large org which is 'good guys'. There are several. They're in China, releasing competitive open-weight models on a regular basis.

I thought "If you're not paying for the product, you are the product" is the most accepted wisdom on HN? At least when it comes to services from FB or Google. But if that comes from China they are the "good guys"?

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#536

He moves around quite a bit. Less than 2 years on average if you take away the longest and shortest jobs. It feels like this is just a celebrity hire to help raise IPO value, and then he'll move again when the tech hits another real-world scaling wall. Expect another short stint (stunt) with Anthropic.

yes, pure engagement farmer. Marketing yourself is a big part of the biz these days. Thanks, social media

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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But it’s not a better product, it’s just cheaper.

That’s one person’s opinion, yours, and not the market’s.

Fair, of course price is a factor in whether one product is better than another, and yes it’s my opinion that things becoming more affordable/junkier, is not always a net increase in quality of life.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#539

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Am I the only one who wasn’t particularly impressed by AutoResearch? If you looked at what the agent was actually doing, it was just tuning parameters mostly, not really trying different novel approaches. I couldn’t help myself but consider this mostly a very inefficient variant of hyperparameter optimization, but someone correct me if I’m wrong, I may be looking at this too pessimistic.

Karpathy embedded within an organization is way more impressive than him out on his own with hot takes and little projects. I hope he does great things for Anthropic.

Absolutely, I wasn’t saying that him being at Anthropic wasn’t going to be effective, I just think his little projects wouldn’t be very interesting if his name wasn’t attached to them.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#540

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Honestly, if Skynet were possible, Anthropic would probably build it first and claim they had to because OpenAI is bad.

Skynet is being built on the Ukrainian/Russian front lines.

And it is sad some people are thinking Karpathy or Karp are persons of any benevolence.
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