Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

ziglang.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

531–540 of 952 posts

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#531

Post by temptemptemp111 »

echelon wrote: post #66
muratsu wrote: post #51

> Putting aside GitHub’s relationship with ICE, it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress. This says more about the author than anything else.

The author of the article is the creator of the Zig language. This is par for the course for him. He's quite a bit like Linus [1]. He needs to start following his own advice [2]. [1] https://mastodon.social/@andrewrk/112362751644363647 [2] https://andrewkelley.me/post/open-letter-everyone-butted-hea...

[dead]

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#533

Post by otikik »

sapphicsnail wrote: post #260
mmaunder wrote: post #208

They've abandoned GitHub for Codeberg because GitHub has ICE as a customer. Codeberg uses Paypal which is a member of the ICE "Virtual Global Taskforce". https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/top-story-industry-partner... There is a purity spiral that organizations can enter when they start doing this, which ends up with you shoving yourself into a cold dark corner of the internet and still not being completely detached…

You're mad because they left a vendor because they switched to a different vendor that you think is just as bad but also you're accusing them of starting an "inevitable purity spiral?" Which one is it?

It didn't seem to me that the person you answered to was "mad". Are you "mad" because of what they wrote?

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#534

Post by imiric »

xp84 wrote: post #359
harry8 wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a difference between what you say to and about volunteers working for free on their hobby and what you say about the work of a company famously known as "The Death Star" You want to work with people and the group says "yay and this is how we will work together" you do that or go away. This is entirely separate to stating a universal truth such as "Microsoft product blows because they do not care", "Oracle su…

I have no connection to Microsoft but I think this take is terrible. Part of maturing and growing up, for me, was realizing that there are really very few people who truly deserve scorn and disrespect[1]. Those I disagree with politically, mostly think they’re doing the right thing and they think that if people only understood, they’d change their tune (and that’s basically what I think of them). Those “big companies…

It's interesting that maturing and growing up for me has resulted in opposite conclusions to yours. We're all different, of course, but I'd like to offer a different perspective.

> And anyway, because most people are trying their best, regardless of how the outcomes line up to affect my life and my interests personally, really do not deserve my scorn and derision.

The fact that most people are "trying their best" doesn't mean that their goals and interests can't be selfish, or that their actions can't negatively impact others. Particularly people who pursue positions of power, in politics or corporations, often treat others with hostility. And unlike most hostile people, it's these high-rank individuals that have the capability to impact millions of people.

So while I agree with your overall sentiment that well-intentioned people don't deserve my scorn and derision, the real world has taught me that governments and corporations often abuse my trust, my rights, my freedoms, and my quality of life. And for that, the least I can do is speak freely about how I feel about them as people on an online forum. I'm sure that my actions have practically zero impact on their lives, unlike theirs on mine.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#535

Post by climb_stealth »

skrebbel wrote: post #386
climb_stealth wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Holy shit this escalates completely. I had no idea any of this was going. Is sr.ht tainted now or still a decent place to host code? I can't quite tell.

> Is sr.ht tainted now I hate that this is now a thing you can ask unsarcastically. Just use the tool you like the best man, screw what other people think. Yes, there's people who will go "you're bad because your use a tool that's made by a guy who said something wrong about Stallman" (or whatever he did exactly again). These people are not worth your attention.

My bad, I shouldn't have said tainted. Trustworthy is what I had in mind.

I moved my private repos to sr.ht ages ago because it was the open source, free software, ethical, longevitable approach. And stepping away from the mega corporations and everything going on with those.

I was wondering whether this was still the case.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#536

Post by ljm »

xp84 wrote: post #359
harry8 wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a difference between what you say to and about volunteers working for free on their hobby and what you say about the work of a company famously known as "The Death Star" You want to work with people and the group says "yay and this is how we will work together" you do that or go away. This is entirely separate to stating a universal truth such as "Microsoft product blows because they do not care", "Oracle su…

I have no connection to Microsoft but I think this take is terrible. Part of maturing and growing up, for me, was realizing that there are really very few people who truly deserve scorn and disrespect[1]. Those I disagree with politically, mostly think they’re doing the right thing and they think that if people only understood, they’d change their tune (and that’s basically what I think of them). Those “big companies…

I don't always get it right but I try not go on the internet and contribute even more anger and negativity that is already there. Try not to be a dick to other people.

It's not really for anybody's sake except my own, because I'm the one who has to sit with a mind full of shit at the end of the day and I'm just going to wear myself down. Nobody who matters is gonna read any of the bile I could write and change who they are, after all.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#537

Post by climb_stealth »

cookiengineer wrote: post #133
climb_stealth wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Holy shit this escalates completely. I had no idea any of this was going. Is sr.ht tainted now or still a decent place to host code? I can't quite tell.

It's a defamation campaign done by 4chan bigots. See my sibling comment.

Thanks for mentioning it! Makes me glad to live a life out of the spotlight and to be generally ignorant of stuff like this going on. Would not want to be targeted like that :/

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#539

Post by [deleted] »

johnfn wrote: post #95

> it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress. > More importantly, Actions is created by monkeys This writing really does not reflect well on Zig. If you have technical issues with Github, fine: cite them. But leave ad ho…

[deleted]

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#540

Post by [deleted] »

ttiurani wrote: post #352

Looking at these comments, it's painfully apparent how many think that being polite in your communication is more important than actually doing something. I agree it would have been nicer if the message was more polite. But if you compare that to having the backbone follow through with meaningful long-term changes against a corporation you don't trust or respect, there shouldn't even be a discussion. And don't even g…

[deleted]
Post reply on HN