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Extremely slow takeoff. The engines appeared to have both quit. And the plane did a slow descent and crash.
Those slow seconds of falling must be psychological torture. If I'm in a plane crash I want it to be instantaneous.
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I really like the Economist as a source of weekly news. Somehow I’ve ended up primarily reading their daily recap in the app. They already have a full article on this crash. That usually means it’ll be in the magazine next week.
The Economist? I just unsubscribed from the digital edition. A neoliberal and globalization bias in overall tone.
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Some people trust their own thinking to judge what they see. We know it called mayday and then lost communication. It also stopped transmitting GPS data. Looking at this it likely lost all electric power. The electric power comes from generators driven by the turbines. If you lose both turbines you lose electricity. You also lose the hydraulic system so you can not get in the gear or change flaps. Occam's razor check…
Don’t these Dreamliners also have back batteries?
A Boeing Whistleblower engineer had warned of premature failure of this Boeing 787 Dreamliner and had asked US congress to bring down every single plane of this model type 1 year ago. He died of “suicide” suspiciously right after. I hope Boeing gets investigated for failure after failure after failure, and crashes it has caused recently. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/apr/16/boeing-whis...
It surely can’t be a coincidence that the sole survivor was sat next to the emergency exit. I still can’t fathom how he walked away from that, though. Or even got out the plane alive.
I guess he was just lucky to be in a bit sticking out rather than crushed?
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There's footage after takeoff of it descending with the air ram deployed, no engine power, gears down, and flaps up. TBD on the cause, but loss of engines for some reason seems to be the case. I do agree that a lot of info comes out first week that isn't all right. I'm just reciting what's been shown in videos.
Both slats and flaps were on maximum during the entire flight.
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I saw you mentioning this but the RAT on the 787 sticks out of the bottom and should have been visible at around :04 seconds into that video when the aircraft silhouette is visible clearly against the background. Although it's possible I am just missing from the video. You are right that the sound is quite distinct and can be clearly heard in the video.
The RAT is surprising tiny on the 787, and this is a phone video of a monitor, then run through Reddit compression. I am of course not 100% sure about any of this. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ95qKj... edit: here you might possibly see it on the right, a very tiny blurry thing https://imgur.com/a/CElWKzQ source: https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1l9hqzp/air_india...
From the video of the runway it also seems like the aircraft didn't do a short takeoff (ADS-B location data is always crappy on the ground in my experience so this is entirely unsurprising).
There was a "smoke cloud" from behind the left engine which could also have just been a dust cloud right after rotation.
The flaps allegedly could be at only 5° (which is why they're so hard to spot) because of the runway inclination.
The mystery thickens...
CCTV capture of complete takeoff: https://x.com/ShivAroor/status/1933165937399648447
Apparently the pilot radioed "Mayday…no thrust, losing power, unable to lift!” 11 secs after takeoff.
It would seem to fit with a bird strike on both engines. Or contaminated fuel I guess. The stuff about flaps seems irrelevant.
Quite likely this and Jeju Air crash in Korea and Sully landing in the Hudson were all caused by bird strike taking out both engines.
Why is it always foreign airlines that crash? The US flys significantly more than any country in the world and operates the most Boeing airplanes including the 737 and 737 Max, yet there hasn't been a single major accident like this and the Max crashes in the US. Are these planes not maintained to the same standards, are the pilots not trained on these types of planes as much as in the US?
And why is it always Boeing planes?
