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The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Average age of engineers and scientists in the Manhattan Project was 25. Our current gerontocracy is ahistorical. Perhaps one reason startups work so well is they are one of the few places that still let young people exert agency. The average age of NASA’s mission control team during the Apollo era was 27— they put humans on the moon. Young people bring a force of curiosity and creativity that can disrupt the status…

First, there's hardly any evidence that these are anywhere near "brilliant engineers" let alone 1%. Their claims to "fame" were being interns or working on tightly scoped greenfield projects. Some might be interesting, sure. But it's hardly relevant to operating in a complex organization.

But more importantly, the real issue is regardless of how old they are an unelected individual is doling out hyper-privileged access to sensitive data to folks without any kind of oversight. It's a total mess.

It's hyperbolic to the n-th degree to call these "the best of nerds" as well.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

#533

Do people know age of founding fathers or USA?

If your point is that Elon Musk is overthrowing the government and these are his pals, then this statement makes sense. If you were trying to make any other point then this makes zero sense.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

#534

I found Bukele's comments to be eye opening, https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1886059275174506850 > Most governments don’t want USAID funds flowing into their countries because they understand where much of that money actually ends up. > While marketed as support for development, democracy, and human rights, the majority of these funds are funneled into opposition groups, NGOs with political agendas, and destabilizin…

No, not kudos!

Before destroying an entire organization, it’s important to know their true impact and how much it’ll hurt to have them gone. So far, I’ve seen zero evidence that deep thought or analysis went into these decisions. In other words, it’s objectively a careless decision. If it’s not careless, then Elon should be sharing evidence, lengthy discussions on his decisions, etc. Plus, there should be a public comment period because Elon sure as SHIT doesn’t have enough context to understand the full impact.

I, for one, do not like the fact that the richest man in the world, who still owns multiple companies in conflict with our government, gets to unilaterally make these decisions with no input from the public. Not only is it undemocratic, it’s objectively corrupt! You know, that thing where we expect our federal decision makers to not have severe conflicts of interests?

So no, don’t fucking give kudos for shit like this. And a single tweet from one president isn’t enough to justify decisions of this magnitude.

If those allegations are true, sure, reform or shutter the department. But do it democratically. Move fast and break shit is not the correct problem solving model to apply to geopolitics or even federal policy, and it’s absurd that this isn’t self evident.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

#536

how is someone’s age relevant? Is a 55 y.o. Software engineer who spent 20 years in a bureaucratic wheel any better than a bright 20yo mind? They both suck in a different way! Writing an entire article with ageism as a center piece is truly pinnacle of American journalism

Their experience is relevant. If they're being brought into build data analysis systems to make sense of data of various organizations there's zero chance they've worked on a project of that scale let alone do they understand all the gotchas you need to deal with working on a project of that scale.

You're offering a completely false dichotomy here.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

#537

Average age of engineers and scientists in the Manhattan Project was 25. Our current gerontocracy is ahistorical. Perhaps one reason startups work so well is they are one of the few places that still let young people exert agency. The average age of NASA’s mission control team during the Apollo era was 27— they put humans on the moon. Young people bring a force of curiosity and creativity that can disrupt the status…

I think it's really cool they have the Herculaneum Papyrii guy working for them!

It's a shame Wired is behaving this way.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

#538

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