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The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Are such drastic action appropriate given the current state of the US? The US probably hasn't been this economically dominant since after WWII. Feels like Chesterton fences are getting torn up left and right by people too young and incurious to possibly understand why those fences might be there.

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Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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I applaud these guys and the work they're doing. Any bureaucracy, public or private, with access to a guaranteed income stream will grow like a tumor. The entire federal govt needs to be audited and gutted. The time for committees, reports and similar half measures is over.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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how is someone’s age relevant? Is a 55 y.o. Software engineer who spent 20 years in a bureaucratic wheel any better than a bright 20yo mind? They both suck in a different way! Writing an entire article with ageism as a center piece is truly pinnacle of American journalism

Because there's a baseline age to have the necessary skills, experience, and cognitive development to be able to accomplish the task.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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post #73

Are such drastic action appropriate given the current state of the US? The US probably hasn't been this economically dominant since after WWII. Feels like Chesterton fences are getting torn up left and right by people too young and incurious to possibly understand why those fences might be there.

Chesterton fence == I don’t have an argument but I do have a fence and you don’t, so I guess somebody should have learnt their lesson!

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Well, Cultural Revolutions are almost always done by young and inexperienced.

Btw, i wonder how many of those raiding the government offices are really DOGE people and not say Russian or Chinese agents pretending to be DOGE - if one to believe the news the security let them into the building once they threatened to call Marshals Service (social engineering DOGE style. That clearly shows couple things - 1. DOGE themselves didn't bother to get proper paperwork, clearances, etc., a "promising" start so to speak and 2. that at least the building security part of the government there got totally rotten as it failed to perform their basic duties. And the agencies' (Treasury(!), USAID,...) employees just giving their laptops and access to internal systems to the first schmuck supposedly from some DOGE - and that all after years of trainings of "don't leave your screen unlocked", "don't give sensitive info to the strangers pretending to be your higher-up or a colleague" . Really shows the effectiveness of all those trainings :)

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Are such drastic action appropriate given the current state of the US? The US probably hasn't been this economically dominant since after WWII. Feels like Chesterton fences are getting torn up left and right by people too young and incurious to possibly understand why those fences might be there.

It does not matter. If republican party voters cared about appropriateness, they would not picked up Trump and Musk. They picked them because they wanted to see maximal harm and they see lack of ethics/morals as strength.

No. They want to stop the bleeding from the last 4 years. I blame the person that made the mess. Not the one cleaning it up and showing it to us.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Average age of engineers and scientists in the Manhattan Project was 25.

Our current gerontocracy is ahistorical.

Perhaps one reason startups work so well is they are one of the few places that still let young people exert agency.

The average age of NASA’s mission control team during the Apollo era was 27— they put humans on the moon. Young people bring a force of curiosity and creativity that can disrupt the status quo. If we’re serious about cutting waste in gov spending, let’s not turn away new minds.

The guys featured in this gross and irresponsible hit piece by Wired, by all accounts, are brilliant engineers. Top 1%.

- one decoded the Herculaneum Papyrii at the age of 20, winning the Vesuvius Challenge

- another built a startup funded by OpenAI

- one interned at SpaceX and got a Thiel Fellowship

- another was a top engineer at a major AI firm

This is who they are bullying and putting a target on. The best of us nerds. https://x.com/anothercohen/status/1886480470185001025

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