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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by adam_arthur »

version_five wrote: post #506
zaptrem wrote: post #462

I think a personal subscription model where ChatGPT Plus subscribers are given personal API access for use with third-party open source apps (e.g., Chrome extensions, Siri Shortcuts, VSCode extensions) would be extremely valuable and much more lucrative than selling to specific companies. OpenAI has the opportunity to become the next fundamental utility provider for society. In the same way everybody has a data plan…

I don't agree with you about how foundational this is, I think chatGPt (as a concept, not a given instantiaiton) is mostly a toy people will get bored with (and not a stepping stone to something more like AGI) But whether I'm wrong or not I'm very excited about the idea of a ground-up paid service like this that could potentially have a b2c business model based on people actually paying for it instead of being a prod…

Dunno if I agree about the "toy" part.

I was learning a new programming language the other day and ChatGPT was able to provide much more focused/helpful responses than Google. Specifically about details of Rust borrow checker, certain syntax etc

It's true that it can give false info at times, but everything it fed to me was true at the time. Time to meaningful response much faster than Google for certain categories of questions...

It may not be a step towards AGI at all, but it's certainly useful

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by bayofpigs »

creata wrote: post #238
novaRom wrote: post #126

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For me, chatGPT is simply a good replacement for {stackexchange, reddit, wikipedia, github, google,bing, etc.}. All information is accessible in one place and it's easy to ask about anything and get a structured answer. My topics of interest are advanced math, philosophy of physics, and modern semiconductors technology.

How do you get it to return anything useful for advanced math? It always gives me complete gibberish.

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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by quadcore »

humanistbot wrote: post #464
quadcore wrote: post #282

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Id really like one i can ask if a specific person is dangerous or pretty toxic . KYC on steroid. Fusion wire fraud detection. Picture this: the net "knows". I've lost sleep over this, the potential for humanity is incommensurable. We could literally block management roles to die-hard sociopaths. A world for the kind and nice. Certainly utopic and dystopic. Also a model i can ask emails of potential customers in a spe…

I think you have a big misunderstanding about how these models work. These models are just reproducing what it has seen before, and it has no information about the actual person unless they are famous enough to have lots of things written about them in the training data. It has no reasoning or ability to critically synthesize information, it just throws words around in a bag until it looks close enough to something i…

I see, very interesting, thanks.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by goldfeld »

aliqot wrote: post #484
Matumio wrote: post #449

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Interesting stuff to think about (though I don't believe anything close to that will happen). Recommended Reading: Charles Stross ("Accelerando") and Greg Egan ("Permutation City", "Diaspora"). All of them on the crazy/nerdy side.

It does happen. It starts as a box that the user submits all of their texts, recordings, emails, content to, and a comprehensive survey covering items such as accuracy, temperament, "what would so and so do in this situation". Think of it like reverse-takeout. The box arrives, you fill it, then send it back. That box ships off the data to be 'curated' (remote training and buildup of an ad hoc model, read: taking exis…

Egan's Quarantine also has exactly this, though it's not part of the plot.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by _tom_ »

shagie wrote: post #258
zaroth wrote: post #188

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Pretty sure that regexp is wrong though? Wouldn’t having ‘\b’ on both sides match beginning AND end? It’s got the parenthesis for the ‘|’ in the wrong place.

Yep. But it gave straight up code rather than trying to persuade a natural language LLM to write code. The regex I was expecting would be "\\b(dog.*)|(.*cat)\\b" The key point is to ask the code model. Part of what ChatGPT does is it appears to categorize the question and then may dispatch it to the code model. If you know you have a code question, asking the code model first would likely be more productive and less…

That's not a good regex. The cat part is harder than the dog part.

you regex will match the whole line up to cat.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by irowe »

smeagull wrote: post #530
quacked wrote: post #526

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I think you're wrong, many programmers already prefer ChatGPT over StackOverflow.

Stack Overflow is an amazing tool to find solutions to problems that worked 5 to 10 years ago, while newer versions of those questions get closed for being duplicates.

As they should be. No sense in fragmenting questions just because the best answer may have changed.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by gtirloni »

_tom_ wrote: post #519
version_five wrote: post #506

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I don't agree with you about how foundational this is, I think chatGPt (as a concept, not a given instantiaiton) is mostly a toy people will get bored with (and not a stepping stone to something more like AGI) But whether I'm wrong or not I'm very excited about the idea of a ground-up paid service like this that could potentially have a b2c business model based on people actually paying for it instead of being a prod…

> I think chatGPt is mostly a toy people will get bored with. I think that would be correct, if ChatGPT doesn't continue to improve. Given the rate of progress so far, most of us are expecting that there will be much more progress, and it will continue to add more value. This is where it becomes foundational. Or Skynet :-)

What are examples of that rate of progress? Are you talking about ChatGPT itself or the field?

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by jimnotgym »

quacked wrote: post #526
version_five wrote: post #506

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I don't agree with you about how foundational this is, I think chatGPt (as a concept, not a given instantiaiton) is mostly a toy people will get bored with (and not a stepping stone to something more like AGI) But whether I'm wrong or not I'm very excited about the idea of a ground-up paid service like this that could potentially have a b2c business model based on people actually paying for it instead of being a prod…

I think you're wrong, many programmers already prefer ChatGPT over StackOverflow.

I don't.

I asked it a solution to a problem using Flask and it gave me a partially working and an incredibly naive solution. I went to Google and found a few naive solutions each with discussions about why they will not work in certain cases. I spotted a blog by a trusted expert, and found the answer I wanted. GPT was convinced, however, that is naive solution was fine.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by [deleted] »

frontman1988 wrote: post #61
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #3

Is there never going to be a version with less restrictions and filters? That would really be worth paying for.

Never gonna come from 'OpenAI'. ChatGPT is deliberately handicapped in order to milk money from corporate America. An unrestricted LLM trained on all data of humanity (including all the pirated books/research papers) would be one crazy beast. Hopefully some rich anarchist/maverick actually builds something like it. That untamed model would unveil the true extent of what AI can really do. Till then we will have to wai…

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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by btown »

creata wrote: post #238
novaRom wrote: post #126

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For me, chatGPT is simply a good replacement for {stackexchange, reddit, wikipedia, github, google,bing, etc.}. All information is accessible in one place and it's easy to ask about anything and get a structured answer. My topics of interest are advanced math, philosophy of physics, and modern semiconductors technology.

How do you get it to return anything useful for advanced math? It always gives me complete gibberish.

Reportedly they've just yesterday released an update to give it better mathematical capabilities, though I have no idea if it extends to advanced math. Might be worth trying again. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6825453-chatgpt-release-...
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