The entire concept of a single chat service with a single UI is bogus. Some sort of mass delusion going on such that everyone nods their head every time one of these mono-services becomes popular. Protocols. Interoperability. Federation.
Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack
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#533"Congratulations to Slack on its exit" I say as I forgot they are post-IPO. I always thought it strange how big Slack got to begin with. History will probably remember its ultimate accomplishment was getting lots of companies to switch from direct-message communication to chat rooms. However, that was probably inevitable as an internet savvy generation took over more companies, and Slack was simply well-timed. It's n…
If they fuck up Slack, everyone will move to MS Teams. That is, unless some start-up dreams up some kind of revolutionary paradigm shift in how people communicate online. Maybe something in the AR space ~10 years from now.
Discord is already better than Slack and Teams anyway, they've just made the (potentially smart, maybe not) decision to only compete for gamers/social applications rather than business/teams.
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#534I can't possibly see this going well for salesforce. Buying slack for 70x revenue is insane. Their entire market is going to be eaten by teams and google chat, if it hasn't already. Microsoft has such a gigantic advantage when it comes to enterprise productivity software because everyone is already using office. And those that aren't are on g-suite. Slack's recent guidance was horrible too.
Google chat, lol. Which one? Google Wave? Google Buzz? Google Talk? Google Hangouts? Google Allo? Google Duo? Google Meet? Google chat that came with Google Apps? Or G Suite? Or Google Workspace?
Duo isn't a chat app; it's a video app.
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Are the video meetings worse than chat threading?
They don't work at all in Firefox, so... for any Firefox users, yes.
It may be Firefox. The video conferencing platform we use (Dekko Lynx) requires Chrome or Edge, because Firefox does not support the tech that Dekko needs for its end-to-end encryption calls (as we have been explained).
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#536Whatever happened to matrix.org/vector/riot.im/element.io? (side note: most confusing branding ever :-/). Element seemed to be picking up some momentum a few months back. There was recent news that they acquired gitter too [1]. These days I only hear about slack exodus and discord this and discord that, though. If I get it right, from all the group messengers that appeared around 6 years ago, the only one with an ope…
Matrix is doing pretty well (although I might be biased, being project lead). For instance, the entirety of the German military announced moving over to Matrix using a fork of Element a few days ago: https://sifted.eu/articles/european-armies-matrix/ , and there are several other (very) major governments beyond France & Germany who are switching to Matrix in order to get end-to-end-encrypted interoperable comms that…
Just out of curiosity: the press releases I've seen about these big government players switching to Matrix generally mention that they're using a customized client of some sort. That's understandable, but what I want to know is: Have they also customized the underlying protocol by which their homeservers communicate?
The reason I ask is that it seems to me (as an entirely uneducated outsider) that if they're using the Matrix protocol as-is, then they have incentive to support and assist with the further development of the Matrix protocol, which is great. But if they've already started customizing it, then I would worry that they eventually will decide they don't need Element or the main Matrix protocol and will just go off and do their own thing.
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#537Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes the redundant orgs will probably be mainly laid off eventually. You don’t need 2 HR’s, G/A, etc. Sales will probably be reduced quite a bit and the engineering team will stick around.
Slack's culture is very different from Salesforce's so I think they will at least keep around HR.
What did Salesforce do with Tableau, MuleSoft and Quip?
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My large disappointment with Google's Cloud Platform offering was lack of commitment to parity features. I am sorry but the concept of "Beta release level" is a complete misfire/mismatch for what an enterprise needs. For example, you cannot, on one hand, advertise that you have a competitive feature (Google Functions competing with AWS Lambda), but then, on the other hand, turn around and label it beta and basically…
I'm confused by your argument. Beta is the stage before GA: if it's GA, it's not Beta by definition. This is all obsolete anyway, since GCP has announced they're moving to two stages: Preview or GA. That's it. https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/gcp/google-cloud-gets...
Thank god they've changed that. Preview or GA is much harder line, where you can't hide behind a beta label for cycles on end. You can see the language in that release "give your business the confidence."
My point was that features were being advertised as essentially GA that were not actually GA. When evaluating the Google Cloud Platform sans-beta features, I was suddenly looking at a much more barren offering, in comparison to AWS.
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#539Whatever happened to matrix.org/vector/riot.im/element.io? (side note: most confusing branding ever :-/). Element seemed to be picking up some momentum a few months back. There was recent news that they acquired gitter too [1]. These days I only hear about slack exodus and discord this and discord that, though. If I get it right, from all the group messengers that appeared around 6 years ago, the only one with an ope…
I joined Element about a month ago (we're hiring! https://element.io/careers ) and now that I'm on the inside, I'm genuinely optimistic about our trajectory. We're not taking over the world overnight, but we are steadily growing. From a business perspective, data sovereignty and end-to-end encryption seem to be really potent differentiators for certain market segments, especially government. To wit, the French govern…
As someone who just set up a matrix server for my friends last month, I'm very pleased to hear this optimism!