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Re: Mac Pro

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Post by spydum »

geon wrote: post #486
OSWJimlo wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the hell is wrong with you? The 'if it were android' bit just shows how completely Apple has made us expect the web to not be open. The whole fucking point of web standards is that it doesn't matter what you browse from - if they were conformed to. But no, apple violates them every which way (and gets praised for not being the shittastic company it is to boot) and fucktards like you just accept that 'sure, apple…

> The 'if it were android' bit just shows how completely Apple has made us expect the web to not be open. I think it reflects more how bad Apple are at browser compatible websites, and how we expect them to suck. I have run into many issues in the iOS devcenter where it would only work in Safari. Lame.

This, plus the fact that android has so many display resolutions to support, it would be surprising if apple cared to cater to it.

My point was simply that even apple got it wrong on their own device and browser.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by gambomb »

geon wrote: post #495
wisty wrote: post #417

OK, so it's not a Mac Pro. It's a Mac Mini Pro. As long as it's not too expensive, it's exactly what a lot of prosumers might want (especially those who want to ditch their laptops for iPads and iPhones, and maybe a MBA for the road- a lot of people's MacBook Pros live on their desks). I can't see a serious video editor wanting one, but they're all jumping ship to get cheaper Wintel workstations (and at some point, s…

The Mac Mini is the low-end, cheapest mac. I see nothing low end, nor cheap about this one. The small form factor just means there is less air inside than in your typical ATX tower. I really don't see your connection to Mac Mini.

You started off by citing his connection though. It's a small desktop. The reason he said Mac Mini _Pro_ was in reference to that high end spec you mention in your responce.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by gambomb »

geon wrote: post #495
wisty wrote: post #417

OK, so it's not a Mac Pro. It's a Mac Mini Pro. As long as it's not too expensive, it's exactly what a lot of prosumers might want (especially those who want to ditch their laptops for iPads and iPhones, and maybe a MBA for the road- a lot of people's MacBook Pros live on their desks). I can't see a serious video editor wanting one, but they're all jumping ship to get cheaper Wintel workstations (and at some point, s…

The Mac Mini is the low-end, cheapest mac. I see nothing low end, nor cheap about this one. The small form factor just means there is less air inside than in your typical ATX tower. I really don't see your connection to Mac Mini.

You started off by citing his connection though. It's a small desktop. The reason he said Mac Mini _Pro_ was in reference to that high end spec you mention in your responce.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by gambomb »

geon wrote: post #495
wisty wrote: post #417

OK, so it's not a Mac Pro. It's a Mac Mini Pro. As long as it's not too expensive, it's exactly what a lot of prosumers might want (especially those who want to ditch their laptops for iPads and iPhones, and maybe a MBA for the road- a lot of people's MacBook Pros live on their desks). I can't see a serious video editor wanting one, but they're all jumping ship to get cheaper Wintel workstations (and at some point, s…

The Mac Mini is the low-end, cheapest mac. I see nothing low end, nor cheap about this one. The small form factor just means there is less air inside than in your typical ATX tower. I really don't see your connection to Mac Mini.

You started off by citing his connection though. It's a small desktop. The reason he said Mac Mini _Pro_ was in reference to that high end spec you mention in your responce.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by ithkuil »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #437
comex wrote: post #424

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> PCIe 4.0 x4 would be ~8 GB/s That's what I said, 64 Gbps. :)

I feel like Apple is betting the farm on Thunderbolt being the future, and I don't see that future materializing. How many Thunderbolt peripherals have y'all even seen in real life that weren't the Apple external monitor or a mini displayport display adapter? I feel like this is even less prevalent than Firewire was back in the 1394 glory days (it was/still is an excellent bus for running audio, due in no small part…

one of the mistakes with Firewire is that they underestimated the royalties issue, which afaik wasn't repeated with Thunderbolt (but I might be wrong)

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by abruzzi »

geon wrote: post #496
koralatov wrote: post #483

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In the ways the heat management is designed, it reminds me of the oft-maligned G4 Cube, which used the same components around the edges, airflow through the centre idea to cool the machine. The small size of the unit also reinforces the similarity for me.

Didn't the Cube have overheating issues?

the cube also didn't have a fan, it just used a chimney effect. And no I never heard of an overheat problem, I still have my cube--13 years, and it still runs fine (slow these days though...)

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by broken_symlink »

glenra wrote: post #70

"Okay, we COULD just label the ports with regular high color contrast paint. Say, white paint on a black background or black paint on a white background. But that would be TOO EASY and the panel would then really 'pop' against our otherwise monolithic clean design. Which would be distracting." "But during actual use the ports are going to be on the BACK of the device (so you won't see it) and will have random stuff p…

You could just put it on your desk so that the ports are facing towards you.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by smackfu »

mark-r wrote: post #399
smackfu wrote: post #307

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External optical drive is a viable substitution. External GPU is not, at least at the moment.

Apparently Apple believes that Thunderbolt 2 changes that equation. It looks to me like they've tried hard to make sure that the included GPUs are adequate for 90% of their users, at least for today. As for tomorrow their philosophy has always preferred replacing the machine rather than upgrading it piece by piece.

Yeah, that seems to be their solution. Actually, it seems like their solution is to pick a GPU that is adequate for 99% of their users at launch time. Which is not ideal, since everyone who buys a Mac Pro is going to be paying for super-premium graphics, even if they are buying the machine for the Xeons.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by wmeredith »

LekkoscPiwa wrote: post #235
danabramov wrote: post #106

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Why would you want the backlight to stay on for a while, longer than default? Genuinely curious.

because you're in Siberia, it's 1:00 am, it's dark, you are drunk and need more time to plug that damn thing into the right whole. Genuine answer as I see it.

Some edge cases juts aren't worth chasing :) And Apple's mastery in business thus far, has been knowing exactly which ones those are (as I see it).

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by kgermino »

acoyfellow wrote: post #393
OSWJimlo wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the hell is wrong with you? The 'if it were android' bit just shows how completely Apple has made us expect the web to not be open. The whole fucking point of web standards is that it doesn't matter what you browse from - if they were conformed to. But no, apple violates them every which way (and gets praised for not being the shittastic company it is to boot) and fucktards like you just accept that 'sure, apple…

Your account was made 47 minutes ago. I wish I had enough karma to downvote this.

No worries. 53 people already have. Somewhat impressive (if a bit excessive)
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