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It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts
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Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts
#522It's similarly insulting to read your AI-generated pull request. If I see another "dart-on-target" emoji... You're telling me I need to use 100% of my brain, reasoning power, and time to go over your code, but you didn't feel the need to hold yourself to the same standard?
Why have the LLMs „learned“ to write PRs (and other stuff) this way? This style was definitely not mainstream on Github (or Reddit) pre-LLMs, was it? It’s strange how AI style is so easy to spot. If LLMs just follow the style that they encountered most frequently during training, wouldn’t that mean that their style would be especially hard to spot?
> Why have the LLMs „learned“ to write PRs (and other stuff) this way?
They didn't learn how to write PRs. They "learned" how to write text.
Just like generic images coming out of OpenAI have the same style and yellow tint, so does text. It averages down to a basic tiktok/threads/whatever comment.
Plus whatever bias training sets and methodology introduced
Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts
#523It's similarly insulting to read your AI-generated pull request. If I see another "dart-on-target" emoji... You're telling me I need to use 100% of my brain, reasoning power, and time to go over your code, but you didn't feel the need to hold yourself to the same standard?
Why have the LLMs „learned“ to write PRs (and other stuff) this way? This style was definitely not mainstream on Github (or Reddit) pre-LLMs, was it? It’s strange how AI style is so easy to spot. If LLMs just follow the style that they encountered most frequently during training, wouldn’t that mean that their style would be especially hard to spot?
I'm glad that AI slop is detectable. So, for now the repulsive emoji crap is a useful heuristic to me that someone is wasting my time. In a few years once it is harder to detect I expect I'm going to have a harder and more frustrating time. For this reason I hope people don't start altering their prompts to make them harder to detect as LLM generated to people with a modicum of intelligence left.
Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts
#524Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why have the LLMs „learned“ to write PRs (and other stuff) this way? This style was definitely not mainstream on Github (or Reddit) pre-LLMs, was it? It’s strange how AI style is so easy to spot. If LLMs just follow the style that they encountered most frequently during training, wouldn’t that mean that their style would be especially hard to spot?
I do remember 1 example of an emoji in tech docs before all of this -- learning github actions (which based on my blog happened in 2021 for me, before ChatGPT release), at one point they had an apple emoji at the final stage saying "done". (I am sure there are others, I just do not remember them.) But agree excessive emoji's, tables of things, and just being overly verbose are tells for me anymore.
I do recall emoji use getting more popular in docs and – brrh – in the outputs of CLI programs already before LLMs. I’m pretty sure thst the trend originated from the JS ecosystem.
Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts
#525I personally don’t think I care if a blog post is AI generated or not. The only thing that matters to me is the content. I use ChatGPT to learn about a variety of different things, so if someone came up with an interesting set of prompts and follow ups and shared a summary of the research ChatGPT did, it could be meaningful content to me. > No, don't use it to fix your grammar, or for translations, or for whatever el…
Agreed. This short target piece is an amusing Luddite rant. No true content other than to bemoan our first stumbling steps toward using AI to write and think.
I am a reasonably good (but sloppy) writer and use Claude to help improve my text, my ideas, and the flow of sentences and paragraphs. A huge help once I have a good first draft. I treat Claude like a junior editor who is useful but requires a tight leash and sharp advice.
This thoughtless piece is like complaining about getting help from professional human editors: a profession nearly killed off over the last three decades.
Who can afford $50/hr human editorial services? Not me. Claude is a great “second best” and way faster and cheaper.
Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts
#526I personally don’t think I care if a blog post is AI generated or not. The only thing that matters to me is the content. I use ChatGPT to learn about a variety of different things, so if someone came up with an interesting set of prompts and follow ups and shared a summary of the research ChatGPT did, it could be meaningful content to me. > No, don't use it to fix your grammar, or for translations, or for whatever el…
Even letting the LLM “clean it up” puts its voice on your text. In general, you don’t want its voice. The associations are LinkedIn, warnings from HR and affiliate marketing hustles. It’s the modern equivalent of “talking like a used car salesman”. Not everyone will catch it but do think twice.
Only if you ask it to or let it lead you. Just say no.
Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts
#527Earlier quoted context omitted.
You may thank millenial hipsters who used think emojis are cute and proliferation of little javascript libraries authored by them on your friendly neighborhood githubs. Later the cutest of the emojis paved their way into templates used by bots and tools, and it exploded like colorful vomit confetti all over the internets. When I see this emojiful text, my first association is not with an LLM, but with a lumberjack-be…
Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read this comment. I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.
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Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts
#528Earlier quoted context omitted.
My impression is that this style started with apple products. I remember distinctly opening a terminal and many command lines (mostly Javascript frameworks) applications were showing emoji in the terminal way before LLMs. But maybe it originated somewhere else.. In Javascript libraries..?
I thought it was JavaScript libraries written by people obsessed with the word "awesome", and separately the broader inclusivity movement. For some reason, I think people think riddling a README with emoji makes the document more inclusive .
> For some reason, I think people think riddling a README with emoji makes the document more inclusive.
Why do you think that? I try to stay involved in accessibility community (if that's what you mean by inclusive?) and I've not heard anyone advocate for emojis over text?
Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts
#529Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It would be more human to handwrite your blog post instead. I don’t see how this is a good argument. The use of tools to help with writing and communication should make it easier to convey your thoughts, and that itself is valuable. Whether I hand write a blog post or type it into a computer, I'm the one producing the string of characters I intend for you to read. If I use AI to write it, I am not. This is a far, f…
>I'm the one producing the string of characters I intend for you to read. If I use AI to write it, I am not. This is a far, far, far more important distinction than whatever differences we might imagine That apparently is not the case for a lot of people.
Yeah I don’t agree with that quoted. If you experiment with replying to emails by hand, you’ll practically avoid long threads. If you experiment with avoiding as much typing as possible by allowing an AI substitute, you’ll probably end up erasing large portions. AI pad-out followed by human pare-down might be closer to handwritten.
Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts
#530Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought it was JavaScript libraries written by people obsessed with the word "awesome", and separately the broader inclusivity movement. For some reason, I think people think riddling a README with emoji makes the document more inclusive .
> For some reason, I think people think riddling a README with emoji makes the document more inclusive. Why do you think that? I try to stay involved in accessibility community (if that's what you mean by inclusive?) and I've not heard anyone advocate for emojis over text?
It's really only anecdotal — I observed this as a popular meme between ~2015-2020.
I say "meme" because I believe this is how the information spreads — I think people in that particular clique suggest it to each other and it becomes a form of in-group signalling rather than an earnest attempt to improve the accessibility of information.
I'm wary now of straying into argumentum ad ignorantiam territory, but I think my observation is consistent with yours insofar as the "inclusivity" community I'm referring to doesn't have much overlap with the accessibility community; the latter being more an applied science project, and the former being more about humanities and social theory.