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narrator yes, he will omit that president threatens another country but will make a big deal out of host on tv show Turkey's president has vowed to "liberate Al-Aqsa mosque" from Israel https://www.newarab.com/news/hagia-sophia-resurrection-paves... Turkish President Erdogan did not hesitate to issue a rare threat to Israel in a party rally, speaking on the ongoing war in Gaza: 'Perhaps we will invade just like we en…
Israel is stooping to Ergodan’s level, sure. But the standard should higher for Democratic countries, nuclear powers, and countries who receive enormous foreign aid from the US for “self defense.”
It was random journalist in israel joking on tv show
you are going to compare what somebody random says to what head of state (that is member of nato) says ?
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literally in quote that I gave you, Erdogan claimed that Jerusalem in Turkish. He been entertaining idea of rebuilding Ottoman empire, as of recent.
Most of the western countries for example, those that recognized "palestinian state", don't recognize it in any specific borders. Recognizing it without any borders means that they don't recognize that east jerusalem belongs to it.
I never denied palestinians of their identity. I presented you with palestinians denying palestinian identity.
and btw,
Iran - Pakistan relations are so good that they exchange missile strikes in 2024
Iran - Afghanistan relations are so good that they had border clashes in 2023
Iran - Iraq relations are so good that Iran actively destabilizing Iraq and supports various militias there
Iran - Azerbaijan relations are, to say the least, strained. And Azerbaijan is famously used as Israeli base for spying on Iran.
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literally in quote that I gave you, Erdogan claimed that Jerusalem in Turkish. He been entertaining idea of rebuilding Ottoman empire, as of recent. Most of the western countries for example, those that recognized "palestinian state", don't recognize it in any specific borders. Recognizing it without any borders means that they don't recognize that east jerusalem belongs to it. I never denied palestinians of their id…
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literally in quote that I gave you, Erdogan claimed that Jerusalem in Turkish. He been entertaining idea of rebuilding Ottoman empire, as of recent. Most of the western countries for example, those that recognized "palestinian state", don't recognize it in any specific borders. Recognizing it without any borders means that they don't recognize that east jerusalem belongs to it. I never denied palestinians of their id…
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denying existence of palestinian state is not racist. because it never existed, it doesn't exist now and whatever exist as result of Oslo agreement doesn't meet definition of state.
in previous conversation i said that I don't care how they self identify. for all i care they can identify as Atlanteans.
On the other side, you been denying palestinians their self identification. this is racist. i gave you two example of prominent palestinians who fought for independence and you brushed them off as misguided. this is literally marginalizing self identity of the people that you claim to be ally of.
as example, among those of them who live in Israel (and I think you wouldn't argue with fact that they are same ethnic group) 30% to 60% (depends on survey) self identify as arabs
among those who live in west bank/gaza, some identify as palestinians, some as arabs, some as muslims, some as palestinian arabs and some identify mostly with a their clan or hamula (as Mosab Hassan Yousef whom you dismissed claim). and some as all of those things at same time.
are they all wrong and you right ?
there is a bunch of papers "out there" about evolution of palestinian identity. i'll suggest you to read them instead of harassing a bunch of people here and claiming that they are racists.
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#526I totally share the concern about “secure” messengers leaking plaintext not due to encryption failures, but through archives, relays or vendor-controlled exports. As someone pointed out in this thread - “There’s always an attempt to ‘secure the system’... but E2EE alone doesn’t guarantee safety.”
What really matters is modeling real world threats and minimizing risk at every point in the system. That’s where GOSPL.CHAT stands out. It was designed with context-aware security from the ground up, with critical safeguards like:
No plaintext ever accessible to intermediaries or vendors
Zero-knowledge archives, where only the end user can decrypt their data
No export features or backdoors that can be exploited
These protections mean that even if infrastructure is breached or supply chains are compromised, user data remains unreadable. GOSPL doesn’t just promise encryption — it ensures resilience in the face of real threats. That’s the level of trust we actually need.
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#527If I told you 50 years ago, "Hey, we're going to build a worldwide surveillance network and make the people we are tracking pay for it", you would not have believed me. But that is what happened. Cell phones.
Yes, because the sole reason someone would possess a cell phone is to be tracked, with no other legitimate reason for wanting a cell or smartphone at all. /s
While tracking is an unfortunate consequence, cell phones and smartphones have become indispensable aspects of our daily lives. We can lament their prevalence or highlight their negative impacts, but reducing cell phones to “tracking devices people pay for” is an overly simplistic view IMHO.
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#528If I told you 50 years ago, "Hey, we're going to build a worldwide surveillance network and make the people we are tracking pay for it", you would not have believed me. But that is what happened. Cell phones.
Yes, because the sole reason someone would possess a cell phone is to be tracked, with no other legitimate reason for wanting a cell or smartphone at all. /s While tracking is an unfortunate consequence, cell phones and smartphones have become indispensable aspects of our daily lives. We can lament their prevalence or highlight their negative impacts, but reducing cell phones to “tracking devices people pay for” is a…
Hardly indispensable, it just feels that way to many.
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> Not only would it be a horrible thing to do and of no military value, they simply don't blame the people of Iran for the IRGC's actions. So then it’s remarkable that it’s nevertheless occurring. I posted this elsewhere ITT but the parent comment is now flagged so it may be difficult to find. I post it below. > Shock, fear in Tehran after Israel bombs residential, military areas https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6…
"without distinguishing between military officials and civilians" Israel has air supremacy over Tehran. The facts don't support your narrative that Israel is flattening Tehran.
“Flattening” implies damage more widespread than I have described. My statement, sourced from numerous credible news organizations, which I have linked, is that Israel has attacked residential areas. As for Israel’s air superiority over Tehran (also an established fact as far as I can tell) I have no idea how you think that is supposed to be a rebuttal of anything I’ve said.
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They usually just do a mea culpa: Camera: https://www.bitdefender.com/en-us/blog/hotforsecurity/facebo... Audio: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41424016 Conversations: https://www.vice.com/en/article/facebook-said-it-wasnt-liste... Mass surveillance: https://thehill.com/video/facebook-spying-on-users-new-repor... Across the web: https://www.wired.com/story/ways-facebook-tracks-you-limit-i... Beacon: https://www…
I was around for a lot of these. In none of these cases did Meta lie. They are all either fake or honest mistakes that Meta never lied about. For the second one in particular, Meta never listened to anyone's mic. I would know, I worked on this stuff there at that time.
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