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Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Post by Tagbert » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 6:48 PM UTC

amake wrote: post #486

Tagbert wrote: post #477

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where in Settings? I've not see any ads there.

There are occasionally ads disguised as alerts, such as when you're running low on storage space it will suggest that you buy a paid tier of iCloud storage. I think I have seen other ad-adjacent messaging for other paid Apple services but I can't think of any off the top of my head right now.

That isn't really what most people think of as ads. Nothing that requires tracking or ad sales. Offering services within your app isn't really the same as selling banner ads and video rolls.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Post by hyperman1 » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 6:05 PM UTC

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #470

hyperman1 wrote: post #239

In windows XP, microsoft learned their users accepted some abuse,e.g locked theme engine, plastic default theme, DRM. There were complaints, but users took it because where else to go? And to be honest, XP was still an upgrade coming from 98 and 2000 was not available for end users. Vista was an universally loathed disaster, but users took it because where else to go? Windows 7 was better, but still an UI downgrade.…

> Windows 7 was better, but still an UI downgrade. I thought Win7 with the Classic theme was the best Windows UI. Side note: maybe it's a typo, but why would you use "an UI" instead of "a UI". Whether you pronounce the letters or say "User Interface", it's still going to be "a", unless you pronounce "UI" as "ooey".

I just see your side note now, and this non-English speaker is curious: I thought this was correct.

You start with 'a downgrade of the UI'. Then you shorten to 'a UI downgrade'. Now you you have 2 vowels 'a' and 'U' next to each other, so you must drop an 'n' in between to ease pronouncing it..

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 6:54 PM UTC

hyperman1 wrote: post #522

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #470

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Windows 7 was better, but still an UI downgrade. I thought Win7 with the Classic theme was the best Windows UI. Side note: maybe it's a typo, but why would you use "an UI" instead of "a UI". Whether you pronounce the letters or say "User Interface", it's still going to be "a", unless you pronounce "UI" as "ooey".

I just see your side note now, and this non-English speaker is curious: I thought this was correct. You start with 'a downgrade of the UI'. Then you shorten to 'a UI downgrade'. Now you you have 2 vowels 'a' and 'U' next to each other, so you must drop an 'n' in between to ease pronouncing it..

Whether it's "a" or "an" is not about the letters, it's about the sound.

When saying letters, in English, "U" is pronounced "yoo". The Y sound, being a consonant, will mean the correct indefinite article is "a". Contrasted with German, I know they just pronounce it like "oo" with no y-sound preceding it. If you pronounce the letter "U" like that, then using "an" would be correct.

a/an being about the sound and not the letter is also why "an hour" is correct, despite H being a consonant, because the H is silent.

That all being said, you'll find people argue over whether "an historical event" or "a historical event" is correct.