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The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Post by iuafhiuah »

IshKebab wrote: post #450
sgt wrote: post #358

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And Wayland is compatible with everything one would expect?

Nope! I used it for a while and had issues with screen sharing/capture in Firefox and OBS (it did work in Chrome but then my webcam didn't work there - classic Linux). I never thought it would take 3 decades for Wayland to be mature.

How long ago was this? Screen sharing[0] and capture[1] works fine in wlroots.

  [0]: Supported with workarounds circa 2020, most were merged by 2022 - https://github.com/emersion/xdg-desktop-portal-wlr/wiki/Screencast-Compatibility
  [1]: I've had success using `wf-recorder` https://github.com/ammen99/wf-recorder

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Post by lozf »

jamesfinlayson wrote: post #149
quyleanh wrote: post #91

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Agree with you except the prefer reason. I like to using Window because of its advantages about UX, which I cannot find in Linux or macOS. For example: the consistent keyboard shortcuts, the explorer's UX and UI when accessing by mouse and keyboard, the window management including tiling flow, the muti-monitor management... I feel that there is power at Microsoft forcing Windows including terrible adware as now, just…

> the consistent keyboard shortcuts Funny, I remember working at a Linux shop a few years ago - two higher-ups in tech there were fairly against paying for any software, but both used Windows for this exact reason.

These days you get the same in Gnome, KDE, and even i3 or sway with minimal effort.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Post by mostlysimilar »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #458
conradfr wrote: post #378

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Not OP but I hate Finder. I just want to see my folders and access them, let me do that ffs, why does that left panel hate me?

Yeah, it's frustrating that I can't easily just access the root directory. I feel that MacOS tries very hard to hide the fact that it's Unix under the hood and tries to hide all the Unix directories.

Huh? The "Macintosh HD" folder in Finder is /. Just drag it into your sidebar.

As for hidden files, cmd + shift + . to show them.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Post by mostlysimilar »

Dalewyn wrote: post #326
MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #289

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Honest question - what do you like about Windows? I used windows from 3.1, NT, 95, 2000 until XP, at which point I switched to Linux for my main OS. Obviously I used all the later versions of Windows too for work, but each version seemed worse and less usable (7 was ok I guess).

For all its faults, Windows is the only operating system that manages to balance practicality, versatility, customizability, and reliability all in one single operating system. Linux? The fucking thing breaks down if you so much as look at it wrong. No reliability, zilch, nada, /dev/null. I don't trust Linux with anything mission critical, unless I'm paying someone monies to make sure my time isn't wasted (eg: Red Ha…

Is Windows actually customizable? Ever since they removed the Windows Classic theme the most you can really do is change the "accent" color, which barely shows up anywhere.

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Post by mostlysimilar »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #459
MiddleEndian wrote: post #216

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Let's be fair, I would also avoid any company that uses Microsoft Sharepoint!

Sharepoint is the worst piece of software I've ever used. I think its central problem is that it doesn't know what it's supposed to be, so it tries to be everything, and feature creep has turned it into a slow, bloated mess.

Have you used Teams? It's worse. It's shockingly bad.

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Post by amake »

Tagbert wrote: post #477
raydev wrote: post #474

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And within the Settings app.

Where in Settings? I've not see any ads there.

There are occasionally ads disguised as alerts, such as when you're running low on storage space it will suggest that you buy a paid tier of iCloud storage.

I think I have seen other ad-adjacent messaging for other paid Apple services but I can't think of any off the top of my head right now.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Post by userbinator »

bluescrn wrote: post #268
userbinator wrote: post #123

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You consider 10 "good"? Maybe compared to 8, but not anything before. It's gotten consistently worse with each new version since ~XP. 8 was a massive nosedive, 8.1 a slight improvement over 8, and 10 roughly the same, and 11 another nosedive.

Compared to the mess that is Win11, and the previous agenda of Win8/Metro (locking down and dumbing down, replacing 'real windows' with a touch-centric mess), Win10 is wonderful.

Exactly. It's just a local optimum.

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Post by plaguepilled »

mrburnssama wrote: post #425
plaguepilled wrote: post #68

I say it everywhere windows comes up, but if you're curious about Linux, please try Fedora. Or, if your friend insists it, even Linux Mint.

I've been distro hopping for months now and found openSUSE the most stable and bug-free experience out of the main distros. I'm not sure why it isn't mentioned more often. People think more bleeding-edge distros have more bugs but I've found that to be the opposite and even IF something went wrong, it is automatically installed with a snapshot rollback feature!

Oh I like OpenSUSE! Been a while since I used it though. I've been meaning to look into a few things for that distro such as its secure boot implementation and mandatory access control defaults, but I've just not got around to it.

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Post by Dalewyn »

mostlysimilar wrote: post #484
Dalewyn wrote: post #326

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For all its faults, Windows is the only operating system that manages to balance practicality, versatility, customizability, and reliability all in one single operating system. Linux? The fucking thing breaks down if you so much as look at it wrong. No reliability, zilch, nada, /dev/null. I don't trust Linux with anything mission critical, unless I'm paying someone monies to make sure my time isn't wasted (eg: Red Ha…

Is Windows actually customizable? Ever since they removed the Windows Classic theme the most you can really do is change the "accent" color, which barely shows up anywhere.

It's very customizable because with enough gumption you can hook into Explorer directly and make it appear and behave however you want.

And that's just the shell.

What, where and how Windows can do something for you depends entirely on what you install and how you configure everything. Windows is a blank canvas.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Post by OkGoDoIt »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #459
MiddleEndian wrote: post #216

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Let's be fair, I would also avoid any company that uses Microsoft Sharepoint!

Sharepoint is the worst piece of software I've ever used. I think its central problem is that it doesn't know what it's supposed to be, so it tries to be everything, and feature creep has turned it into a slow, bloated mess.

I’d still take SharePoint over salesforce for the scenarios in which both products apply.
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