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Re: I'm an addict

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I feel seen. My mechanism for remaining focused and getting through work has been to consume harder illicit substances, mostly cocaine. It's effective but definitely not sustainable long time and I'm not too sure where from here.

Desoxyn 5mg is highly reviewed by people who have it prescribed for ADHD.

Desoxyn is brand name methamphetamine, just fyi

Re: I'm an addict

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Can you ask more politely or are you dissing me intentionally?

Coming at this as both someone who’s addicted to tobacco and has ADHD, I’ve spent a good chunk of my life having people naively (at best) or condescendingly (at worst) tell me things like: - you just need to quit cold turkey, how hard can it possibly be to not do something? - have you tried focusing? - you should try making todo lists! - if you would just sit still and listen, you could do better on your homework! Wh…

I agree with you that telling people to do things that do not work for them is not helpful. However, there is no substance you can stop taking to cure your ADHD.

Any advice for an alcoholic that does not include "stop drinking" is not good advice. Every alcohol-related problem stems from the alcohol. It may not be everything needed for their recovery, but it has to be the basis. AA at least gets this right. However, AA paints a picture of addicts as people who are unable to ever get this aspect of their life under control. Unlike non-drinkers, AA alcoholics are always fighting the demon Alcohol. The organization does not believe in full recovery. Sometimes I have read a no-true-Scotsman formulation which says that if you can survive sober without AA, then you were not really an alcoholic. How is this helpful?

I think the proof is really in the pudding. AA has a lot of former members who still do not drink. These are people who quit drinking and eventually found the meetings unhelpful.

I live without fear of relapse. This is because I know that I will never "need" alcohol again.

To address the other side of what you are talking about, I hope that one day I will be able to live properly with ADHD. As of yet, we have not found an approach that generally works. Stimulants are helpful but they are a band-aid on the problem and have side effects. Behavioral therapy is helpful, too, albeit a bit mild in effect. I hope that when a good approach is developed, I will have the sense to try it.

Re: I'm an addict

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Hi guys OP here. I abstained all day (yay!) until I was going to bed :( I've read through most comments here and want to clarify a few things

1. I tried to get diagnosed with adhd but my doc just prescribed me some meds (amphetamines I think). They seemed like they would work until the effect wore off and I stopped taking them.

2. I have never abused any drug in the past.

3. I know this is a non issue for a lot of you guys and rightly so. I know I'm well off compared to a lot of real drug addicts.

4. I'm kinda depressed I think?

After a day of reflecting, speaking to my grandparents, spending time in a ceremony with my parents, and at the end of the day compulsively opening hn (I didn't expect this post to have any comments, addiction just took over), I can say a few things (before forgetting them!).

Firstly, I had a lot of time on my hands today and spending it on personal relations has been good. And secondly staying away from my room in general is positive. Being alone in my room is almost certainly a negative. I want to practice programming and do projects before my masters so I don't know how Ill deal with it. I'll reply to other comments once I wake up. Its almost 2am now!

Thanks for all the comments and advice!

Re: I'm an addict

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The problem is that many people otherwise don't have motivation. Why strive for anything? Especially when the very bare minimum for survival is already covered by community.

Really? The only thing that will motivate them is a baseless claim about life/suffering after death?

What else?

Re: I'm an addict

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Do you have an alternative "point of life"? Is it career? If so, that's pretty depressing. Happiness is a superficial emotion. If your loved one was "happy" spending his entire life playing fortnight in his parent's basement, would you be sad for him? Charity? I don't know. Never found a meaning as compelling as having children.

what a bizarre reaction to my comment

I read your comment as somewhat dismissive at the point of life being having children because you made a joke of Genghis Khan "winning" the game of life.

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It's the lack of nuance that makes any conversation far . I was pretty left wing until the whole AOC "scarcity is a lie" wing of the party started taking over all online conversation. I'm sure the same applies to conservatives and Boebert/Greene nutjobs. I'm sure whether you see Reddit as left or right is mostly colored by the comments and posts that stick out to you, and those are probably the ones you find crazy or…

I'm more left wing because of aoc and Bernie. Bernie in particular is a great example of left wing politics that don't alienate people on race.

He's very classist though. Not wanting to give someone something doesn't mean you don't want them to have it, and he definitely conflates those two to give himself the moral high ground constantly.

Re: I'm an addict

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For me, a major part of ADHD management consists of forcing myself to do something, multiple times a day. It's work, learning, chores-like tasks, sport, hygiene, regular sleep, cold morning shower, unprocessed food preparation - pretty much everything that isn't immediately pleasurable. I'm "unhappy" multiple times a day when I start doing something that doesn't usually have to be done right away. But it's often a ch…

Oh wow this resonates - I'm exactly the same. I basically try to minimize the time I spend thinking on most things. I have to consciously tell myself "I'm going to stop thinking and just do this task". It's amazing how when you do this, all of the sudden all of the stuff that's on the back of your mind (chores, exercise, etc) just get done in time and your anxiety goes away

Re: I'm an addict

#528

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Well, good thing you don’t need to be convinced for other people to get help. Sheesh. My partners life was literally changed by taking medication. Do you think that’s a bad thing? I strongly doubt that ‘herbs’ are more effective than decades of scientific research. I presume that you’re hearing amphetamines and thinking of the extremes; as the parent said, the medical doses are far lower than that of recreational use…

Good thing I am not trying to stop anyone, nor arguing against there being some benefits to seeking treatment. I've noticed this is mainly a US thing. If you all think it's great, there must be something to it. Like a big marketing campaign going back years. Nope, too wild! It's more probable I need a lecture on the benefits of being hooked on amphetamines in the name of mental health. How long do you think such trea…

The issue is you keep using terminology like “being hooked on amphetamines” to degrade treatment like it’s crystal meth. You should understand that doesn’t sit well with people who have had their lives dramatically improved by treatment.

Again, does coffee sit in that same boat?

Re: I'm an addict

#529

I dont like the idea of replacing the time spend compulsively procrastinating with "learning a new language, getting a pet, going to the gym" is the right way. I see the root cause (for me atleast (used to read HN and blogs for 4 hours everyday)) is that i cant stand being with myself. During the last two months ive been trying to not panic when i'm idle. And not take out my phone or read the nearest material i can l…

> I see the root cause (for me atleast (used to read HN and blogs for 4 hours everyday)) is that i cant stand being with myself.

> During the last two months ive been trying to not panic when i'm idle. And not take out my phone or read the nearest material i can lay my hands on.

> (...)

> My advice on "doing something" when you have day without plans is the following: Bike in the forrest, coffee from thermos near the ocean, read newspapers at the library, talk to people at trainstations (the frequent hangouts are always open for conversations)

Or maybe meditate? It may be hard (specially when beginning) but it's wonderful for learning to comfortable with yourself

Re: I'm an addict

#530

For youtube specifically, I found this great snippet for ublock origin. It removes (almost) all recommendations in youtube, which makes it much easier to quit after just one video: www.youtube.com###secondary www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"] #primary www.youtube.com##.ytp-show-tiles.ytp-endscreen-paginate.videowall-endscreen.ytp-player-content.html5-endscreen Source: https://pawelurbanek.com/youtube-a…

The firefox/chrome extension Unhook provides these features as well, and gives you fine-grained controls over most of the addictive features on YouTube.
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