I bet this is at least partially a result of their “awards show” where they awarded themselves all the awards getting a record amount of dislikes in record time, publicly embarrassing them.
Making the dislike count private across YouTube
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#522Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…
the fact it isn't optional is the biggest red flag, why not just let channels choose if they want to show dislikes?
Lessco Brandon isn’t getting many upvotes these days
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#523Odd that a certain political party got a large amount of downvotes on all their videos and YouTube removes the publics ability to see them soon after.
Most pro-vaccine videos are also massively disliked on YouTube, despite the fact that the vast majority of people support vaccines. I'm guessing you're a conservative, and you don't want dislikes to go away because you think it's great that pro-democrat videos get downvoted, but you can't base real public opinion on YouTube dislikes. It's massively astroturfed
> Most pro-vaccine videos are also massively disliked on YouTube, despite the fact that the vast majority of people support vaccines.
You mean the vast majority support vaccines because they will lose their jobs if they don't "support" them?
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#524> We’ve also heard directly from smaller creators, and those just getting started with their YouTube channel, that they are unfairly targeted by dislike attacks Wow. Well, the politically motivated truth behind this change is pretty darn obvious, right? If you're confused what I mean, check any US mainstream media video with an obvious political slant but pretending to be "objective news" and look at the like/dislike…
The change has been in the works since 2019 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/02/youtube-doesnt-like-... Was it "politically motivated" then? Or just when it confirms your own biases (now)?
To someone who doesn't live in USA the policies created by tech companies always seemed random and strange. But then I started looking at Californian news and suddenly it all made sense, it seems most strange policies are made in response to local political issues and then the whole world has to live with it. I can't say for sure whether that is what happened now, but it wouldn't be the first time.
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#525The dislike button on YouTube videos is one of the few remaining signals that what you are seeing is propaganda. It hadn't occurred to me that this would happen (although it seems obvious) and it is unexpectedly frightening to me. I suppose the fallback will be videos with comments enabled, where people can 'like' a comment who is saying something common sense and reasonable in response to the content.
I suspect that your notion of what qualifies as propaganda differs significantly from most people. Some subgroups -- motivated groups who seem to have endless free time and a lot of passion to click little arrows and leave comments -- brigade and basically remove any functional utility of likes, dislikes and often even ratings. Hateful groups tend to particularly dominate, and weird agendas dominate. The ultimate sol…
>The ultimate solution is, sadly, even more of a filter bubble: If I could click a button and have every like/dislike by pernicious players (in my opinion) completely removed from any measure shown to me, I would respect online ratings better. And maybe, eventually, given that the majority of people are rational and have better things to do, the bores might get bored of trying to manipulate every measure.
We have this problem with movie reviews as well. I lost all faith in Rotten Tomatoes when I saw Knock Down the House's viewer ranking go from the upper 80s to single digits over the course of two years. As more and more people found out that AOC was a star in the film, the score went down. It is a great film in my opinion. I wrote a script to scrape the reviews and provide details about the reviewers. So many 1 star reviews were new accounts that had just rated this film + maybe the Ilhan Omar film. Furthermore most of them don't even explain why they rated it that way(we all probably know why). This led me to think, what else is being manipulated? Are studios just buying up good reviews?
Recently they have introduced "Verified Reviews". This attempts to link your Rotten Tomatoes account with the movie theater so you can get a Verified Review checkmark if they have confirmed that you actually bought a ticket to the movie. Users can then filter on Verified reviews. This is a good first step and will probably help to curb abuse.
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#526I cant eat as much as I want to vomit! rm -rf /google
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#527> We’ve also heard directly from smaller creators, and those just getting started with their YouTube channel, that they are unfairly targeted by dislike attacks Wow. Well, the politically motivated truth behind this change is pretty darn obvious, right? If you're confused what I mean, check any US mainstream media video with an obvious political slant but pretending to be "objective news" and look at the like/dislike…
By aligning themselves with a fact free version of reality, the conservative/libertarian hybrid movement that has captured the right have put themselves politically against anyone who is interested in truth or objective reality. This big tech by that definition aligns with “the left”.
However in reality YouTube has no political bias.
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#528Nothing to be concerned about, citizen. If a video is disinformation, no need to look for downvotes, YouTube’s moderators will take care of removing that dangerous content for you. Nothing to see here.
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#529This is like Amazon letting anyone review a product, but only showing you how many 5-star reviews there are. Completely useless.
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#530As usual, HN users are making lots of interesting assumptions (some comments to a conspiracy level) on the intention here... But in the reality, there are many smaller creators who is frequently being harassed by trolls (have you heard about those young Chinese patriots trolling over Korean and Japanese channels?) and one of their tool is the dislike button. And creators have been complaining about this for many year…
Seriously, the level of conspiracy-theory replies to this post is shocking. Like, this is below-reddit-level discourse. This is borderline Q stuff. And I know HN has moderation because I've been told off for flamewars. What gives?
What you’re seeing could be a sign that the audience of HN has changed, or it could be that what you are referring to as “conspiracy theories” aren’t that.