MacBooks have similar functionality ("Power Nap"), which allows for some telemetry (updating your iCloud calendar/drive/mail, MDM telemetry for corporate-owned devices, etc) while asleep. It hasn't been an issue though.
Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
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Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#522I stopped using my Microsoft Surface Pro because it had the same issues. It's a clusterfuck of bad design decisions at Microsoft, the most offensive one being that they prioritize the execution of their scheduled spyware upload (telemetry) over honoring the agreement with the user that a sleeping PC will remain asleep unless the user takes action. It'll even install updates at night and then make reboot sounds to wak…
I found a solution on Microsoft's website: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/surface-it-pro-blog/s... It appears you can instruct it to avoid connecting to the internet to do stuff while in standby. I hope this works since my Surface Book has bad standby drain after sitting on my desk for 2-3 days off charge.
Ah yes... microsoft implementing user-friendly shell commands:
> powercfg /setdcvalueindex scheme_current sub_none F15576E8-98B7-4186-B944-EAFA664402D9 0
> powercfg /setacvalueindex scheme_current sub_none F15576E8-98B7-4186-B944-EAFA664402D9 0
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#523I had a Dell XPS 9310 until about 3 months ago when suddenly one of the fans died on me for no obvious reasons while I was in quarantine. Given that the fans are now soldered onto the mainboard, Dell was offering me to repair this for almost the same amount I paid for the whole laptop 2 years earlier. Needless to say that this was the last time I will buy a Dell. Since I am located in Asia, I also went to one of the…
Apple as well. I have a 2018 15" Macbook Pro with problems: - The battery is dying - The touchbar flickers whenever it is 'off' - a hardware fault that requires the full top case to replaced[1] - Quotes of $400-1200. And things that aren't technically problems but still have the same, can't do anything about it stuck with the problem vibe: - I keep running out of space, but it's soldered to the logic board - Keyboard…
There was a period of time when Apple really seemed to have lost their way with the MacBooks. I had a 2013 that was flawless. Then the lease was up and my company sent me a 2017 model to replace it. That machine was never much good. Randomly slow, awful keyboard, etc. Luckily the battery decided to become a balloon, and so my replacement is a newer 16-inch MBP. The new MBP seems to have addressed all of the stupidity that was going on in 2017 and 2018. And I bought a 2020 M1 MBP for myself, and it has also been quite solid. I don't want to say that Apple necessarily fixed all of their stupidity or really learned anything, but someone there still appears to give a shit.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#524Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's definitely a Windows issue. I've had it with non-XPS Dells and completely different brands like Eluktronics.
I have this issue with my Surface Book 2, everything is MS so there's no real excuse. Didn't notice it in the first couple years of ownership, not sure if it was because my usage patterns changed or some not-so-helpful update that made it worse, but it's really absurd that I can't predict what will happen when I close the laptop. I did something to disable network activity from interrupting standby, which reduced the…
I have this issue with my Razer Blade 15.. I've gotta used to carrying my laptop in my hands now so it's not quite so much of a problem.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#525Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of my Windows laptops in the past would do this in a bag (e.g., Sony and Razor). I'd pin it on Windows, not saying it happens to all Windows laptops but Windows allows it to happen. It knows to sleep when shut, but somehow spins back up in the bag.
I primarily use MacOS and just don't understand how this can still be a seemingly common problem in 2021, when most of the world uses laptops. Shouldn't this be a top priority for Microsoft and for vendors? Apparently it isn't, which may explain why almost every quarter Apple reports year-over-year gains in laptop sales. If I were the boss at Microsoft, this would become a top priority. Immediately.
My MacBook Pro (2019) occasionally does this as well. I close the lid in the office, put it in my bag. When I take it out at home it’s turned off due to overheating and the battery is dead. The cause is some background process that’s preventing it going into hibernation when the lid is closed.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#526I stopped using my Microsoft Surface Pro because it had the same issues. It's a clusterfuck of bad design decisions at Microsoft, the most offensive one being that they prioritize the execution of their scheduled spyware upload (telemetry) over honoring the agreement with the user that a sleeping PC will remain asleep unless the user takes action. It'll even install updates at night and then make reboot sounds to wak…
I feel using Windows for anything other than gaming is just going to give you more headaches than just learning to use a unix based OS. Most applications are available on multiple platforms and alternatives exist for those few applications that are not available. In my opinion, the only reason why Windows is so prevalent in the "enterprise" world is because Microsoft provides support contracts to make it easier to ad…
I'm a hobbyist photographer. Not enough energy for the hobby to learn new software, so I'm stuck with Lightroom. And since I didn't want another Mac, I'm on Windows now for my personal laptop.
It's ok. Not as snazzy as MacOS. But security/privacy concerns excluded, feels less headachey than Linux (which I'm also using in parallel, since Slackware 7).
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#527My 2017 MBP that was fully spec’d out is both the most expensive and worst laptop I’ve ever owned. -Rarely ever goes to sleep -It’s the same model Facebook returned a few thousand of because it randomly voltage surges the USB-C ports and fries stuff plugged into it. Apple refuses to acknowledge this, even though a bad voltage surge blew out the left speaker. -Keyboards been replaced four times -NVRAM needs to be rese…
I'm missing the relevance here? Are you just trying to point out that MacBooks are also imperfect? I had a 2017 as well. And before that a 2013. And since then a 2019 16-inch and a 2020 M1. Yes, the 2017 sucked balls in ways that I can't even begin to count. The 2013 was f*cking flawless. I've similarly had almost zero problems with the 2019 16-inch MBP or my 2020 M1. There's just something especially crappy about th…
Yep the 2017 was bad. The 2013s were very good, but the 2019 16-inch... I had 3 replacements and it still sucked; it got so hot I could bake pizzas on it and no matter how Apple tried to blame me (my usage patterns), when I got to the store they couldn't make it stop and replaced it. My friends (not of great statistical value, I know) had exactly the same issues. In the end I got the m1 (not pro) and it is actually cold all the time which is unpleasant on the wrists in winter. I don't use my laptop for very intensive things; even my programming stuff doesn't take a lot of power so I have no clue why the 19 kept blowing up, but I read online it's a pretty common issue.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#528I stopped using my Microsoft Surface Pro because it had the same issues. It's a clusterfuck of bad design decisions at Microsoft, the most offensive one being that they prioritize the execution of their scheduled spyware upload (telemetry) over honoring the agreement with the user that a sleeping PC will remain asleep unless the user takes action. It'll even install updates at night and then make reboot sounds to wak…
I feel using Windows for anything other than gaming is just going to give you more headaches than just learning to use a unix based OS. Most applications are available on multiple platforms and alternatives exist for those few applications that are not available. In my opinion, the only reason why Windows is so prevalent in the "enterprise" world is because Microsoft provides support contracts to make it easier to ad…
I'm not unfamiliar with Linux and I've been looking into switching recently after a long string of Windows "features" causing problems, but unfortunately gaming isn't the only area Microsoft has an advantage. Linux still doesn't support HDR, for instance. It also has a lot of problems with desktop compositing, because the switch from X to Wayland is at the point where neither of them are good options. That's not even getting into enterprise software compatibility.
For programming, by all means use Linux instead of Windows, it's better. For anything else, it's still not there yet.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#529I have an XPS 9500 and have found this infuriating. I think there's two separate things going on: As others have noted, S3 sleep isn't supported, only S1 "sleep to idle" sleep. But I don't think this is the direct cause of the overheating. In S1 sleep, the laptop can average something like 900mW of power usage, which is enough to annoyingly knock a few percent off your battery overnight, but not enough to make the la…
I just can't understand how people put up with not being able to control what they primary machines are doing. For that reason my primary work machine can currently only be Linux. I have Windows, but this one is only for stuff that is incompatible with Linux. I actually have Linux PC and a separate Linux laptop (Thinkpad T440s). That laptop runs super cool once I debugged all the sources of power usage. Which is quit…
Unfortunately these issues exist in Linux as well. There's no S3 in the bios.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#530The issue is that Windows doesn't go into S3 sleep when you close the lid; it goes into a weird not-really-asleep state for... some reason that I don't agree with[0]. I guess that state is "hot" enough that you could damage the laptop by putting it in a bag while in that state. Fortunately I've been running Linux on my XPS 13, which I have put into a bag hundreds of times (maybe even over a thousand) while suspended.…
Just wait. The newer laptops don't have S3 in the bios at all.