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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by Matthias247 »

bluthru wrote: post #473
blocke wrote: post #24

The touch bar examples shown are a usability disaster. You're going to hide UI from the screen and make me keep looking at the keyboard to find functionality? I stopped looking at the keyboard every 10 seconds when I learned how to touch type. The presenter spent most of his time looking at the keyboard and not the screen. This gimmick will disappear when Apple decides a touch screen is needed to complete the slow me…

>You're going to hide UI from the screen and make me keep looking at the keyboard to find functionality? You can hit a touch bar item faster than you can position a mouse cursor on a screen toolbar.

Wouldn't count on that. I'm pretty sure for using the touchbar you have to look down and aim while you press the thing which takes some time. Compared to that you most likely already blindly can grab your mouse or find the touchpad and move the cursor in the fraction of a second.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by J0-nas »

MiguelHudnandez wrote: post #496
justanton wrote: post #292

Apple is being run more and more by marketers, rather than by techies. As a developer, I don't want to see "emojis" on my keyboard, but I do want to be able to plug in any device I need in that exact moment, without looking for a right dongle. Apple needs to stop sacrificing usability for "looks".

Emojis: I'm with you. This seems dumb but I'm optimistic that people will find clever ways to use the screen. Even if it's just pushing away moronic "toast" style notifications off the important real-estate. USB / dongles: In two years, almost all peripherals will be USB-C and C-to-A adapters will be tiny and cheap. USB-C will be the new Thunderbolt and it'll end up being more convenient. I'm looking forward to shari…

In two years.... so not Today? Because they replaced the USB-A ports today... and not in their 2018 MBP.

Besides, the old peripherals won't disappear within the next few year and most of the world can't easily switch to type-C anyways - since they literally have no money to buy modern technology.

USB 2/3 is "good enough" for too many things to fade away. Any notebook should have 1 type-A port for convenience.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by scottmf »

drawkbox wrote: post #471
ChicagoDave wrote: post #242

TouchBar. Dead on arrival. This is a cute feature, but kind of embarrassing from an innovation perspective. And given the announcement of the Surface Book update and the new Surface Studio, Apple is inconceivably playing second fiddle to Microsoft on the innovation front. The leap ahead on ports is premature at best. I'm sure Apple will hold most of their fan base, but there are going to be quite a few defections me…

I just don't get the appeal of having to look at your keyboard instead of the beautiful screen. The Microsoft approach with the dial on the screen at least is on the screen. Why do I want to keep looking down to be sure the TouchBar has the keys I expect? I'll take a look at them and see, but it seems like something that will be used very little and almost annoying. The locked 16GB memory is a deal breaker for develo…

"Why do I want to keep looking down to be sure the TouchBar has the keys I expect?"

How far are you looking down? I have to make more of an effort to look up to the menu bar than to look down at the function keys.

The touch bar looks great and makes a lot of sense. Far more than having to lift your hands up to touch a screen. I'm just not a fan of the price increases.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by hiram112 »

Does anyone know what is to become of the 2012 13" model that they still contine to sell that allows upgradable ram and HD?

You can still find them for $800 on EBay (brand new), but it doesn't look like it is still available on Apple's site.

There is a 4th 13th inch on the site, instead, but it is not the same as it has 128 SSD and newer graphics. It would be great if this had upgradeable ram and HD.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by Tinyyy »

wkirby wrote: post #427

What I wanted: - 7th generation Intel chips. Skylake (6th generation) is from August 2015. - A move to Nvidia GPUs - Retain the magsafe power adapter - At least one dedicated display-out port, preferably HDMI - 32GB RAM for the 15 inch base model - Support for the airpods using their new W1 chip What I'm mad they included: - Price increase for low value - Touch Bar does away with physical keys I use daily (most impor…

Would a full touch screen provide functionality for your daily workflows? I think the touch bar has more potential uses, no?

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by taytus »

josho wrote: post #293
nkw wrote: post #164

Wow. I hate to say it, but I thought the products in Microsoft's event yesterday were way more exciting than anything from Apple lately. This plus macOS Sierra seems like a whole lot of "meh". This coming from a guy whose first computer was an Apple IIe, who owned a Mac Cube, and whose daily driver is a trashcan MacPro.

Sadly I have to agree. I wonder if Jobs really was that much of a visionary that the company is lost for ways to innovate without him.

I believe he was. Besides being a great salesperson. Today's speakers were terrible.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by dguaraglia »

asadlionpk wrote: post #460
dguaraglia wrote: post #410

As a heavy Vim user, this might be my last Apple development machine. I can always remap Caps Lock to Esc, but years of muscle memory > a flashy feature I have little use for. There's nothing I'd pay extra for in this new machine: touchbar is a meh, biometric authentication has been around since ~2005, the hardware specs are finally catching up with what everyone else has been shipping for a couple years, the new key…

The upcoming devs never used Linux in the first place. So I highly doubt that. The tools will have to adapt.

Sure, but there's an argument for Linux as a development platform: most modern stacks are mostly OS agnostic. Node.js, Python, Ruby, Go, Swift, Android development... unless you are doing iOS or Windows development, there's nothing tying you to one or another OS. Even .NET development is going that way.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by vladimir-y »

hartator wrote: post #327

I think it's also interesting to note that for the first time Apple is lagging behind in term of CPU generation when introducing redesigned MacBooks. The new MacBook Pro are said to be using 6th generation of Intel CPU (Skylake) when you have already on the market the 7th generation on Intel CPU (Kaby Lake). You are even competitive laptops using them already: http://www.gsmarena.com/new_dell_xps_13_laptop_comes_in_r…

In my opinion recently updated HP Spectre x360 (comes with Kaby Lake, like updated XPS 13) is a better MacBook competitor than Dell XPS 13.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by adgasf »

Does it have lightning so that one can use a single pair of headphones with the new MacBook Pro and an iPhone 7? Seems like a crazy oversight if not.
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