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U.S. to dismantle system tracking Atlantic currents that are at risk of collapse

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Post by froggit »

cout wrote: post #466
qingcharles wrote: post #307

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The government knows it's real, these are generally well-educated people who went to decent schools. But, I would challenge that most right-wing voters know whether it is real. Where I live in rural America the vast majority are pro-fossil fuel, anti-EV. EVs are seen as "gay" or "feminine" by the folks out here. So the choice to use fossil fuels might just be some performative machismo, allowing their pick-ups to out…

I think that attitude may change if there is ever an EV that could be competitive in a NASCAR event. For now, the closest we are likely to see is a hybrid, because EVs don't have enough range.

NASCAR has a tendency to fight changes to the drivetrain technology, so a hybrid might take a while still. The regulations banned fuel injection up until 2012, required transmissions to be 4 speed manuals until 2021 and will probably keep the 2 valve pushrod valvetrain and 90° V8 layout til the end of time. If they ever get around to implementing hybrid powertrains (they've been grumbling about the issue since 2024), they aren't going to be there to save gas. Racing hybrids are designed primarily to recover kinetic energy in deceleration, store it for short term and use it to boost acceleration. There are designs for race hybrids that don' t even use batteries or utilize electrical energy for the hybrid part; instead storing it mechanically in flywheels to avoid the inefficiency of converting from mechanical to chemical energy and back.

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Post by froggit »

garethsprice wrote: post #470
roenxi wrote: post #375

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You are, I see, a member of the "reality-based community" as Karl Rove presciently put it back in 2004. You live in a mental space where you critically evaluate facts and make decisions aimed at maximizing your outcome in life. You would do well to explore this great nation of ours and realize that a wild and terrifyingly large number of its inhabitants travel in an almost unimaginably different headspace. The men wh…

> belch out thick black lib-ownin' ball-crushin' smoke, damaging their own engine in the process.

The black smoke belching is caused by a fuel rich air mixture that leads to incomplete combustion and is pumped out of the engine as a burning cloud of smog. While this can cause problems with carbon build-up in the combustion chambers, it's not especially difficult to clean that out before the engine suffers permanent damage. Most often the worst case is fouled spark plugs, which are wear items meant to be replaced at regular intervals.

The real damage occurs in the exhaust plumbing, typically rendering the oxygen sensors inoperative and cooking the catalytic converter. However, a common way to induce black smoke is by hardwiring the oxygen sensors to report the engine needs more fuel, so it's not like the oxygen sensors were typically working anyway.

Likewise, in many parts of the country where this sort of "coal rolling" is common, it's also common for the catalytic converter to be forcibly removed from the vehicle and pawned off for the platinum mesh inside by a couple meth heads looking for their next fix, which has the side effect of preventing it from being damaged. The missing portion of the exhaust pipe is frequently repaired by welding in a straight pipe, allowing the black smoke to flow more freely while also making the exhaust notably louder and adding the scent of immediate global warming (note: this is pretty much super illegal in most states).

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

asdff wrote: post #498
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #406

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You're saying your sole criticism of the tweet is that it uses "menstruators" to describe "people who menstruate"?

Normal people would use the word "women" along with appropriate context. Have you ever heard the word "menstruators" in your life?

Ok, so your sole criticism of the tweet is that it uses "menstruators" to describe "people who menstruate".

My advice to you is to avoid getting so worked up over a single tweet (much less one which is normal), especially if it's just because it uses a single, clinical, inoffensive word you personally don't like. You're going to blow a coronary if you keep it up like this. Touch grass.

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Post by jazzypants »

dotancohen wrote: post #467
anonymars wrote: post #464

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Why would the US news media seek to weaken US influence (or stop war)? Seems much simpler to assume that "sensationalism sells"

I suggest that you query for "Qatari influence in US media" in your favourite search engine or LLM. Many media bodies operating in the land of the free do not represent the interests of the people of that land.

The Qataris didn't force us to do stupid shit like invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Our feckless leaders did that. It's nice that you've invented this excuse for our terrible leadership, but it doesn't actually explain away any of our terrible foreign policy decisions of the last century.

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Post by idiotsecant »

hattmall wrote: post #182
idiotsecant wrote: post #137

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Does the F35 do that? Wasn't Iran shooting those down recently? If there's anything Iran has taught us it's that airpower doesn't win wars, allies do. The US will leave the middle east with their tail between their legs. This is the beginning of the end of the American Empire. For the privilege of spending enormous sums of treasure flying around dropping bombs on brown people what did we get? I would have rather seen…

I'm sorry, but this is like the most ignorant take ever. The world is essentially one life supported regime away from having a level of stability in the middle east that has quite literally never been achieved. Iran and their regional proxies have been almost the only source of middle eastern discontent in the last two decades. The stability of the region is already vastly improved from any time in the past and the d…

If the US wants to stop seeing unstable, barbaric regimes in the middle east, maybe it should stop making unstable barbaric regimes in the middle east. We don't get to literally create the problem on Tuesday and then cry that it's an existential threat on Thursday.

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Post by port11 »

triceratops wrote: post #417
port11 wrote: post #288

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But… why? Climate change is very much real and even stubborn deep-right voters like my father now ‘believe’ in it. Ok, some people make some cash. But wouldn’t they anyway? I don’t understand this need to keep pandering to a minority and to destroy ecosystems.

> even stubborn deep-right voters like my father now ‘believe’ in it I don't believe that, sorry. I mean I believe you that your father says so. But I don't think that holds for most right voters.

He sees the consequences, he’s a hobby farmer. He watches the news talk about how weather patterns got aggressive and disruptive, how crops now fail, etc. He fixes the roofs destroyed by giant hail. He gets it.

Now, you’re right in some ways. He doesn’t care for the science or the electric cars and so on; but after a lifetime of exposure to the situation, it’s hard to keep dismissing it. He grew up in a very different country, weather-wise, and made the connection between climate change and why his potato harvest failed.

I believe, without proof, that most people understand that the world’s climate is changing and creating Big Problems. They might not admit it or understand the science, but can see the consequences. And no, they don’t agree with how to solve this.

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Post by port11 »

chimprich wrote: post #411
port11 wrote: post #288

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But… why? Climate change is very much real and even stubborn deep-right voters like my father now ‘believe’ in it. Ok, some people make some cash. But wouldn’t they anyway? I don’t understand this need to keep pandering to a minority and to destroy ecosystems.

I don't think Trump or any of his appointed lieutenants think any of this through. It's the result of decisions made by emotion, not logic. "Vibe-governing" in other words. Climate change, and science in general, is associated with nerds, boring reality, obstacles to immediate gratification, and effects on poor people. Fossil fuels are associated with large wads of cash, action films, and sticking it to the libs. Dec…

I doubt that people in government, along the entire chain of command, that get paid to analyse policy, that pay consultants to analyse policy, that produce reports on the many facets of the world… that all of that is put together to NOT think things through.

I’d honestly prefer the explanation to be that they’re just that evil, at least that aligns with my worldview.

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Post by b65e8bee43c2ed0 »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #513
asdff wrote: post #498

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Normal people would use the word "women" along with appropriate context. Have you ever heard the word "menstruators" in your life?

Ok, so your sole criticism of the tweet is that it uses "menstruators" to describe "people who menstruate". My advice to you is to avoid getting so worked up over a single tweet (much less one which is normal), especially if it's just because it uses a single, clinical, inoffensive word you personally don't like. You're going to blow a coronary if you keep it up like this. Touch grass.

you know, I chose that particular instance (among many!) of Biden-era pandering to the mentally ill because I assumed that even among the local yuppies no one would defend that.

>Touch grass.

bro, literally go outside and call a woman that word you find nothing wrong with.

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Post by eudamoniac »

latexr wrote: post #509
eudamoniac wrote: post #490

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What I've seen for the past several years is that Asian and White applicants to universities, medical schools, and various other high institutions and careers are admitted at disproportionately lower rates when adjusting for qualifications. This is racism. If the left wanted my vote, they should have stopped being constantly, concretely racist against Asian people. Not the kind of harmless racism on the right that sa…

I’m not American, so forgive my confusion, but are you really saying that you think DEI policies are not only racist, but more harmful and racist than profiling people based on the colour of the their skin or country of origin, then beating them into vans and throwing them into prison camps, including children? And are you also saying you are Asian and yet somehow believe you and your children are going to be exempt…

Yes.

Yes.

I'm a citizen of the country, they are not. In how a nation should be run, preferences of citizens are more important than the preferences of the rest of the world. I don't make a claim about my ancestors' migration being OK or not. It's kind of like asking an Italian, "Why was it okay for your Roman ancestors to take this land, but it's not okay for Turkey to take it now?" I will say that it's strange that the same people who are often so vocal about how European colonists were so bad for the native Americans, are also vocally for immigration. I want to say to them, "How did that work out for the previous inhabitants?"

DEI is worse than ICE because the latter has huge effects on tens of millions of citizens, actually all of them due to cultural drift, while the latter has huge effects on at most hundreds of citizens so far.

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Post by anonymars »

sofixa wrote: post #473
dotancohen wrote: post #468

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You said that "closer economic cooperation and trade" might lead to "(relative) reformers would be in power". Westerners "reforming" other cultures has not been fashionable for about half a century.

Who is talking about westerners here? What even is your argument, because it seems you're just throwing random catchphrases around. The topic is Iran. A theocracy with an unelected supreme leader with final say on political decisions and candidates for all elections in the otherwise relatively democratic system. Reformer in their context (hence the relative qualifier I used) is people like Ahmadinejad who are for rap…

> Ahmadinejad

Did you mean Ahmadinejad or Rouhani? The negotiations technically started under Ahmadinejad but Rouhani would be more reasonably considered a reformer, and is probably more relevant in the context of the JCPOA's lifecycle

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