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U.S. to dismantle system tracking Atlantic currents that are at risk of collapse

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Re: U.S. to dismantle system tracking Atlantic currents that are at risk of collapse

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Post by qsera »

honeycrispy wrote: post #4

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Yes, it might be like watching Trump (or really all the news). If you keep at it 24x7 you ll feel that the sky will fall down in a couple of days.

But if you stop watching him for like a month, nothing of consequence happens (mostly).

Maybe these current watching is like that. If you keep looking at it,too closely and because we don't know all the variables, may be we keep making wrong "doomsday" predictions every time something moves. I have observed that this shows up in many places where we don't really know how things work..

I would much prefer if someone closely monitor the level of poisons and pesticides in the food and water we consume. For example, every store should be visited by a government agencey to collect samples and test them for poison levels...

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Post by mx7zysuj4xew »

b65e8bee43c2ed0 wrote: post #82
kombine wrote: post #17

Let's not forget those from the big tech (you know the names) who kneeled before the king.

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Unlike the stable genius who's bragging how he "aced" not one, but four! cognitive tests

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Post by dyauspitr »

pkulak wrote: post #116
_bypa wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Proffer a strongly worded capitulation" was probably too much for publication.

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The republicans can have 1 senator in the senate and they somehow shuck and jive to get their way. They never fucking lose in implementing their outright evil. Break some rules, use strategy, set up some game pieces. Do something, anything. The democrats couldn’t even get a Supreme Court justice seated with 6 months to go for the next election.

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Post by mindslight »

mothballed wrote: post #100
jakelazaroff wrote: post #79

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Let's say you're an evil capitalist bastard. How would you capture that value?

Surely you're not proposing it is uncapturable economic value. That's not economics. As for the mechanics, first we have to hear what they were thinking about the substance of that value was. That's not my assertion, but rather the question posed by the persons I was replying too -- but virtually by definition economics involves the topic of capturable valuable. If it is not capturable value then I don't see how it's…

Un-centrally-captureable value that remains distributed is very much economic value. You seem to be falling for the efficient market fallacy.

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Post by idiotsecant »

KnuthIsGod wrote: post #94
tdb7893 wrote: post #75

What really puts all of this into perspective for me is I work in academia and one of my friends works for a defense contractor. He told me the maintenance cost per flight hour of F-35 was a bit more than $40k, which is significantly more than I make in a year as a grad student. It's crazy basic science is what's been the focus of so many cuts while it's so cheap.

How many million graduate students do you need to give the US the military hegemony and political influence over allies and adversaries that the F-35 program provides ? Looked at from a policy maker's viewpoint, things look very different.

Does the F35 do that? Wasn't Iran shooting those down recently? If there's anything Iran has taught us it's that airpower doesn't win wars, allies do. The US will leave the middle east with their tail between their legs. This is the beginning of the end of the American Empire.

For the privilege of spending enormous sums of treasure flying around dropping bombs on brown people what did we get?

I would have rather seen that spent on giving lunch to every school age child or paying graduate students a wage above poverty level. At least something useful would have been accomplished

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Post by xgkickt »

DrewADesign wrote: post #44
andsoitis wrote: post #32

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Missed Tim Cook. Let’s map their names to the companies they run. Then reflect on whether we buy their products: Apple, Google, Amazon, Tesla/SpaceX, Meta.

Maybe we need a new FAANG acronym for the new American authoritarian-cozy rightward-veering tech industry. Let’s see, we’ve got: M eta A mazon G oogle A ppl… oh

A subgroup of MAGMA, for owners of secret volcano lairs.

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Post by dyauspitr »

Rekindle8090 wrote: post #48
spankibalt wrote: post #41

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77,302,580 Americans made it happen. 87,037,184 voting-elligible Americans sat it out.

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They share some blame but a transsexual dog would have been a better candidate than Trump.

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Post by tombert »

opsnooperfax wrote: post #107
WolfeReader wrote: post #70

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That makes no sense whatsoever. Voting for Trump (or anyone with an R by their name) is wrong; sitting out a vote is wrong. Why save all the blame for the side that actually put up resistance, however ineptly?

I don’t think blue team good, red team bad is a very mature take on US politics. When it comes to substantive policy, voters do not get a choice. The same wars will be fought. The same lobbies will have their way. Just because one side will make tactless, self-deifying inaugural speeches about how the sea levels will cease to rise and the Earth will start to heal, that does not make it so. I think that if these senso…

Yeah, no, it actually is mature enough.

I hate divisive language like this, but Trump's only major concrete "policy" (if you can call it that) during his 2024 campaign was that he was going to somehow lower grocery prices by instituting tariffs, so basically "I'm going to lower prices by raising prices".

That kind of idiotic quasi-doublespeak should have been a disqualifier for anyone with at least a two-digit IQ, but apparently it's not. The only scenarios that I can see for this:

1) People actually believed the idiotic notion that "other countries" pay the tariffs.

This is so idiotic because even if that were true, which it's not, those costs would still be ruled into the price. "No such thing as a free lunch" is very literally the first thing I learned in high school economics.

If people are that stupid then they can be blamed for their idiotic decisions to vote for a despot.

2) They didn't believe in the tariff rhetoric, and wanted to vote for Trump based on a nebulous "personality".

This is stupid. If you really are voting for people because you think you'd "like to have a beer with them", then you should be blamed when bad things happen from that idiotic decision.

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Kamala wasn't a great candidate, but I really hate this sort of "both sides"-ing people do to try and engage in apologetics for people's ridiculous decision to vote for the guy who, as far as I can tell, has literally no expertise in anything.

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