So we are back to the 1980's CIA actions destabilising South America, each day feels more like Cold War is here.
Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes
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#512If you're wondering WHY, good to read the Maduro indictment from 2020[1] and the press release at the time[2] [1] https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6819579-Maduro-Indic... [2] https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/nicol-s-maduro-moros...
Whoever is telling you it is about drugs is lying.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/02/trump-honduras-pard...
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#513Let freedom ring. Every Venezuelan I know is happy for the regime to fall. Let's hope Iran, Cuba, North Korea and Russia follow soon.
Nukes make a lot of difference though, wouldn't be so sure about russia
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#514Two wrongs don’t make a right. Regardless of your opinion on Maduro, you can still acknowledge that the head of a sovereign state being captured in an unannounced/unnamed military operation by a superpower is wrong from a principled standpoint, and that it’s destabilising a country with 30+ million people if not the entire region.
This is a core problem of international politics.
We allow brutal dictatorships to continue subjugating tens of millions of people and killing millions in the name of convention. Our international organizations (the UN in particular) are basically ruled by authoritarian regimes. Is there no justification for external powers to effect regime change? We just have to wait and watch as the dictator kills a ton of people? Oh, and of course there is Maduro's support for Putin via sanctions evasion. Even now, Venezuelans face a brutal security force that is likely to retain power, but hopefully that power fragments.
Imo we should have done this right after the last election which Maduro stole.
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#515It's funny how many people already see this as a book that is opened and closed on the same day. That's not how these things work. This is like the first stone of an avalanche. It could stop here, or it could roll on for quite a while. It will take months or even years to know whether or not the outcome here was desirable or not and what the final tally is. Remember the 'Arab spring' and what came after.
Considering all the recent meddling of the USA around the world their track record is pretty bad. Higher chance it will end worse than they began with. Worse on an unpredictable way.
Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes
#516It's funny how many people already see this as a book that is opened and closed on the same day. That's not how these things work. This is like the first stone of an avalanche. It could stop here, or it could roll on for quite a while. It will take months or even years to know whether or not the outcome here was desirable or not and what the final tally is. Remember the 'Arab spring' and what came after.
This is the Ron Paul position and its a solid one.
The non-intervention principle applies if you are not actively suffering intervention.
The flaw however, is that applying non-intervention in this instance, is choosing to ignore the real, direct hurt currently endured by non-actors (LATAM + US citizens) from the policies of Maduro.
I do concede that whatever follows Maduro, may be worse.
If I'm getting poked by a neighbor for years and i finally punch back, punching is a valid response. If the neighbor then comes back later and shoots me with a gun, it doesn't mean that my self-defense act was invalid.
Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes
#517If you're wondering WHY, good to read the Maduro indictment from 2020[1] and the press release at the time[2] [1] https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6819579-Maduro-Indic... [2] https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/nicol-s-maduro-moros...
keep that american imperialism propaganda bullshit narrative to yourself.
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#518Imagine the terror felt by those in the capital as American warplanes flew overhead launching munitions.
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#520What I find interresting and would like to see discussed more, is the psychology at play that makes us believe this is another "exception to the rule of international law". I wonder if one could generalize the terror management theory (TMT) to social obedience?