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OpenAI also provides a Chrome Extension ( https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/chatgpt-search/ejcf... ) to trigger a search from the omnibar as the default search engine. If you don't like that (like I do), you can also manually add it under Site Search using https://chatgpt.com/?q=%s&hints=search
Been thinking about this a lot [1]. Will this fundamentally change how people find and access information? How do you create an experience so compelling that it replaces the current paradigm? The future promised in Star Trek and even Apple's Knowledge Navigator [2] from 1987 still feels distant. In those visions, users simply asked questions and received reliable answers - nobody had to fact-check the answers ever. C…
Thinking about incentive alignment, non ad-based search would be better than ad-based, but there'd still be misalignment due to the problem of self-promotion. Consider Twitter for example. Writing viral tweets isn't about making money (at least until recently), but the content is even worse than SEO spam. There is also the other side of the problem that our monkey brains don't want content that's good for us in the l…
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At some point it seems like Google switch to ML-based search instead of index based search. You can search for very specific combinations of lyrics and scenes: "eyes on me pineapple bucket of water house of cards chess time loop" and you won't surface a link to the music video featuring all of those things ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlzgDVLtU6g ), you'll just get really generic results of the average of your q…
Has google completely stopped working for anyone else? I can still search things, i get results but, they're an ordered list of popular places the engine is directing me to. Some kind of filtering is occurring on nearly every search i make that's making the results feel entirely useless. Image search stopped working sometime ago and now it just runs an AI filter on whatever image you search for, tells you there's a m…
YouTube search is also completely useless now.
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I know what you mean, but also don't know how it applies here. Not a hater, and not asking rhetorically to dunk on OpenAI. Just haven't found a use for this particular feature. Which is also exactly something a bad-faith commenter would say, but if I lose either way, I'd rather just ask the question ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You’re not doing a great job of not rhetorically dunking on OpenAI when you imply that it must be for children, elders, or people who can’t be arsed to search. The comment was dripping with condescension towards the use of LLM search, and that’s coming from a huge OpenAI skeptic.
Replacing "really for" with "more for e.g" would have been closer to the intended comment. I'll take that L.
Though if I can clarify: "can't be arsed to search" isn't a normative or judgemental claim against anyone, in the same way that "can't remember a phone number/directions" isn't. I'm speaking under the assumption there's a point between now and heat death where massaging search engine queries may literally not be as useful a 'skill' anymore. So there's less utility in young/old people taking the time to learn it.
But I can see how it sounds when I try to squeeze that into a shorter message.
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Has google completely stopped working for anyone else? I can still search things, i get results but, they're an ordered list of popular places the engine is directing me to. Some kind of filtering is occurring on nearly every search i make that's making the results feel entirely useless. Image search stopped working sometime ago and now it just runs an AI filter on whatever image you search for, tells you there's a m…
Despite all the comments it still works pretty well for me. I feel like they've improved it a bit in the last year or so so you don't get way too much Quora and GitHub/Stackoverflow clones. The level of sponsored results for some queries is way OTT, and obviously any kind of search like "best laptop 2024" is never going to give you good results (probably because they don't exist), but other than that I'm still pretty…
Genuinely interested: have you tried to spend a few weeks on an alternative?
I decided to try DuckDuckGo a few years ago. Not because it was obviously better, but to see if I could get used to it. After a few weeks, I had completely stopped falling back to Google when not finding what I wanted. I stayed on DDG for a couple years. Then same thing with Kagi: I just decided to try. It's been 1.5-2 years now and I'm disappointed when I can't use Kagi (which has my customizations, like some websites I ignore and some that I pin).
I guess my point is that it's not necessarily that you have to try something else when Google is unbearable. Maybe you can try something else and then realize (or not) that Google was not better.
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It's hard to cross check since you didn't mention what you consider are good answers, but the quick answer snippet on Kagi says: > The Yogar-CBMC and JCBMC solvers are notable multi-threaded variants of the CBMC (C Bounded Model Checker) framework: ... Followed by further details and references. The search results themselves look relevant and reasonable to me, but again, outside my area of expertise.
Both are bad answers
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Yep, I was incredibly skeptical about Kagi but I tried it and never looked back. Now my wife, friends, and several coworkers are customers. The chatgpt approach to search just feels forced and not as intuitive.
Once Kagi implements location aware search that is actually useful I’ll be interested in Kagi. That’s what made me leave the engine besides loving it otherwise.
This is probably Google's Altavista moment, by making their results crappier by the year in search of Ad dollars everyone has felt that there is a potential for search to be better and once that becomes available they'll be in a continious game of catch-up. Yes, Google has their own AI divisions, tons of money and SEO is to blame for part of their crappiness. But they've also _explicitly_ focused on ad-dollars over a…
Google, even with all the trillions in additional productivity it has added to the world, has left the world at a net-negative. We can't even quantify it, and every person will tell you a different way in which it has impacted the world negatively. E.g. for me, how much Google (and silicon valley in general) have enabled twisted ideologies to flourish. All in search of ad-dollars by virtue of eyeballs on screens, at…
Considering the value of time, past consumer surplus is especially valuable now.
Sure, there are systematic flaws causing SEO to ruin the information provided: but it isn't clear what Google can do to fight the emergent system.
I'm not sure that Bing/DDG are any better.
I use search (DDG web, Google/Apple maps, YouTube) all the time and I am regularly given results that are extremely valuable to me (and mostly only directly cost me a small amount of my time some of my time e.g. YouTube adverts). Blaming SEO on Google seems thoughtless to me. Google appears to be the victims of human cybersystems as much as we are.
Search in the internet worked because people wanted to generate content to attract people to display ads or any other reason, but they wanted to attract people. If now my content is going to be ingested and shown by a LLM or AI agent, what's the purpose to give it for free? I know it won't happen, but I would love if this type of agents have to pay to show a summarization of another website. It's only fair when done…
I publish my content "for free" because I want to spread knowledge and information, or promote a topic or interest I enjoy, and monetization has never been a priority for me. I know that I am not alone. The urge to create does not depend on a need for money. I am happy for my websites to be picked up by Perplexity or ChatGPT because I want more people to see/learn/hear about the things I care about. If someone only c…
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> Will this fundamentally change how people find and access information? How do you create an experience so compelling that it replaces the current paradigm? I think it's already compelling enough to replace the current paradigm. Search is pretty much dead to me. I have to end every search with "reddit" to get remotely useful results. The concern I have with LLMs replacing search is that once it starts being monetize…
Reddit is astroturfed pretty hard too nowadays. It just takes more work to spot it.
Google really does seem determined to completely destroy internet search.