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Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by arromatic » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:43 PM UTC

qwertox wrote: post #145

arromatic wrote: post #121

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Can you tell me a bit more ? What do you mean by search session ?

Let's see, if I go to " ⋮ -> History -> Grouped History" on the top right of the Chrome browser, I see a "Search History" ( chrome://history/grouped ). For example `8 hours ago: "autohotkey hotkeys"` with 4 links to pages which I visited while searching. But this is a Chrome feature, not a Google Search feature. https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity does (sometimes? can't see it right now) have a grouping feature…

oh I thought you meant something like commenting under search result links like youtube videos.

I might be mistaken but i think ff mobile does something similar of grouping search session

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by lighthazard » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:43 PM UTC

niam wrote: post #142

Genuine question: is there a present or planned value proposition for people like me who already have decent search skills? Or are these really for children/elders who (without making any normative claim about whether this is a good thing or not) can't be arsed to perform searches themselves? Does someone else have good search skills but mingle traditional search engines with LLMs anyways? Why? I use LLMs every day b…

LLMs really make it easy to quickly find documentation for me. Across a huge software project like Mediawiki with so much legacy and caveats, having an LLM parse the docs and give me specific information without me hoping that someone at Stackoverflow did it or if I'm lucky enough to stumble across what I was looking for.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by hughesjj » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:43 PM UTC

niam wrote: post #142

Genuine question: is there a present or planned value proposition for people like me who already have decent search skills? Or are these really for children/elders who (without making any normative claim about whether this is a good thing or not) can't be arsed to perform searches themselves? Does someone else have good search skills but mingle traditional search engines with LLMs anyways? Why? I use LLMs every day b…

I think it's more filling the niche that Google's self immolation in the name of ad revenue started. Besides kagi, there aren't really any solid search engines today (even ddg), and OpenAI has a reach way beyond kagi could dream of outside a billion dollars in marketing.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by jayanth-vijay » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:43 PM UTC

Is there a new api model version for search available ?

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by jayanth-vijay » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:44 PM UTC

Is there a new api model version available for search ?

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by 101008 » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:44 PM UTC

Search in the internet worked because people wanted to generate content to attract people to display ads or any other reason, but they wanted to attract people.

If now my content is going to be ingested and shown by a LLM or AI agent, what's the purpose to give it for free? I know it won't happen, but I would love if this type of agents have to pay to show a summarization of another website. It's only fair when done in mass like this.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by faragon » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:44 PM UTC

What I find incredible is that Google has had the knowledge and resources to do this for at least five years, yet they're still milking the "old cow". It reminds me of Intel sitting on their money while a near-bankrupt AMD sped past them.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by marcusestes » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:44 PM UTC

I like it. It's clean, fast, and the results seem solid. Google search has become so bloated with sponsored results that I've been hoping for a tool that could provide better results than DDG or Bing.

I'm going to use this as my daily driver for a few weeks.

The contemporary web is basically an epiphenomenon of Google, and they've failed to defend it. I hope OpenAI puts a huge dent in their market share.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by moralestapia » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:45 PM UTC

solfox wrote: post #50

findthewords wrote: post #22

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I hope very quickly. The sooner they start competing with Google for ads the better.

Are ads what people want?

Plenty of times the answer is yes.

Re: ChatGPT Search

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Post by MarcoZavala » Thu, Oct 31, 2024, 5:45 PM UTC

niam wrote: post #142

Genuine question: is there a present or planned value proposition for people like me who already have decent search skills? Or are these really for children/elders who (without making any normative claim about whether this is a good thing or not) can't be arsed to perform searches themselves? Does someone else have good search skills but mingle traditional search engines with LLMs anyways? Why? I use LLMs every day b…

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