just eat healthy and be active
How long til we're all on Ozempic?
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Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#512Earlier quoted context omitted.
Saying that the cure for obesity is to eat less is like saying that the cure for heroin addiction is to stop using heroin. It's both clearly true, and also useless.
The cure is to teach from an early age about impulse control, moderation, and how to spot signs of addiction in yourself early. This goes for: Social media Drugs and alcohol Food Or literally any other addiction. I don't think this is a useless thing to discuss.
Ok, in the US start talking about food addiction seriously and see what happens.
Do you remember how long it took to get tobacco mostly banned in the US? Do you remember how much the tobacco industry played the skeptic and introduced bunk science into the mix?
Well Coca Cola, Pepsico, Nestle, and all the other junk food companies have been on this game for years now. Want to change school curriculum?, well your political opponent has $100,000-$1,000,000 more than you from the make people fat industry. Meanwhile there are a crazy number of attack ads against you for being a crazy commie that wants to control peoples lives, you socialist bastard, you're against freedom.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#513Instead of a system that makes these drug available for purchase, I'd rather live in a system that promotes healthy food and active behavior. Unfortunately, I have to drive everywhere, work too many hours to have free time for recreation and have no idea which government subsidy is going to help big ag likely at the expense of my health. All things being equal, I'd prefer to spend less money on prescriptions and have…
The two are not mutually exclusive.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#514I've been on tirzepatide (Mounjaro) for 4 months now. I'm down 13% of my body weight. I realized that frequent cannabis consumption interferes with the weight loss, so I've kicked the habit from daily to occasionally on weekends. I've started walking 2-3 miles a day, 2-3 days a week regularly, in addition to eating less and being more motivated to calorie count. All this to say, this drug has been life changing for m…
My view about obesity has shifted dramatically since Ozempic came out. Before this, I didn't think about it too much (I am not obese myself). I notice now that there is a LOT of judgement, bias(?), around obesity, that people, obese or not, carry with them [1]. I certainly carried that bias, and the reason I noticed it was because Ozempic is literally an external substance that you take that simply makes obesity go a…
> people thinking that taking Ozempic is a personal failing
Considering our society is pushes us toward sedentary highly-caloric lifestyles, I'd say we're set up to fail from the get-go. Therefore the failing is systemic not personal. I wouldn't compare to individual health issues. You can't cure celiac, but you sure could reduce the obesity using policies to drive the food industry toward less-sugar/more-fiber.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#515Earlier quoted context omitted.
Impossibly unrealistic to change zoning to disincentivize car-dependent urban design? Impossibly unrealistic to get rid of enormous sugar production subsidies that make it insanely cheap? Impossibly unrealistic to simply tax added sugar?
> Impossibly unrealistic to change zoning to disincentivize car-dependent urban design? Those zoning issues are the same reason for any number of other problems, including housing prices that are supposedly the #1 concern for a huge number of voters, and yet voters in many cities have only doubled down over time on making it harder and harder to build in efficient and high-density ways. "Impossible" seems like a fair…
Yet some cities are making progress on exactly that issue.
I haven't done the statistics on it, but I'll bet cities full of people who want zoning reform are more likely to reform than cities full of people who do not want it.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#516As someone who struggled with their weight his whole life, this medication is a god send. My wife and I cook every evening. We never eat food made in a factory. We buy raw products and spend a good amount of time every day cooking them. Every morning I wake up and go on a 5 mile hike. And still weight kept on coming on. Worse yet, I am on ADHD medication, which are amphetamines and actually make you lose weight. Yet.…
"Why do we find it acceptable to help people who struggle with alcohol abuse, or nicotine addiction, or opioid addiction, but not to help people who struggle with food abuse?"
I think it is because if 90% of the population did half of what you do (and kudos for you for doing it), they wouldn't have a problem with weight, you just happen to be one of the unlucky few where it doesn't work and these drugs are useful.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#517Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#518I've been on tirzepatide (Mounjaro) for 4 months now. I'm down 13% of my body weight. I realized that frequent cannabis consumption interferes with the weight loss, so I've kicked the habit from daily to occasionally on weekends. I've started walking 2-3 miles a day, 2-3 days a week regularly, in addition to eating less and being more motivated to calorie count. All this to say, this drug has been life changing for m…
Did you notice that cannabis consumption interferes with weight loss due to interfering with motivation to stick to your health goals? Or did it interfere with your metabolism in some way?
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#519Earlier quoted context omitted.
Saying that the cure for obesity is to eat less is like saying that the cure for heroin addiction is to stop using heroin. It's both clearly true, and also useless.
Heroin changes brain chemically, it's (more) serious addiction than obesity, again being a little insensitive to obese people, but they're bad in comparison. And there are degrees of truthfulness & wrongness right! About the point you're making, two generations before you and me, people where fit, more attentive & generally healthy (outside vaccines that prevent diseases now & positive effects due to advancements in…
>About the point you're making, two generations before you and me, people where fit, more attentive & generally healthy
Everything.
Two generations ago you didn't eat out 4+ times per week. Portion sizes at restaurants were 50%+ smaller. Food sciences were not as optimized at making junk food as they are today. In general we were poorer and bought less junk food. We were more apt to work jobs that didn't involve sitting in one place for long periods of time.
>I don't think I'll change your mind or this will come across in good faith
I believe it's what you think, but when 74% of the population doesn't subscribe your philosophy then you're tilting at windmills. Yea, maybe someday people will catch on to that and all will be good, but that's not the way the entire world is going. We need solutions we can enact now to solve problems we have now.
Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?
#520I've been on tirzepatide (Mounjaro) for 4 months now. I'm down 13% of my body weight. I realized that frequent cannabis consumption interferes with the weight loss, so I've kicked the habit from daily to occasionally on weekends. I've started walking 2-3 miles a day, 2-3 days a week regularly, in addition to eating less and being more motivated to calorie count. All this to say, this drug has been life changing for m…
My view about obesity has shifted dramatically since Ozempic came out. Before this, I didn't think about it too much (I am not obese myself). I notice now that there is a LOT of judgement, bias(?), around obesity, that people, obese or not, carry with them [1]. I certainly carried that bias, and the reason I noticed it was because Ozempic is literally an external substance that you take that simply makes obesity go a…
The willpower frame actually works pretty well for a lot of people. If not than in our society almost everybody would be obese. This pill will make things worse for the group that hangs out in the treadmills and drinks green and disgusting smoothies.
On topic, very happy this medicine exists, but let's pray god will keep the prescription only for BMI > 35.