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How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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A lot of people fail to realize that eating healthy and exercising is not enough for a lot of people who fight with their weight their entire lives. Ozempic and Wegovy are game changes and have real, tangible health benefits. One person told me, "No matter how much I eat or exercise, I have been 'hungry' my entire life. That ended when I started taking these drugs."

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Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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One other note: the current peptide-based GLP-1 drugs are not likely to be the permanent solution. Injectables are just too problematic for that. Several companies are now working on more classic small-molecule drugs targeting the same receptors. So it's likely that in several years we'll get a pill with the same effects. Yes, there's technically a pill version of Ozempic already (Rybelsus), but it works by making th…

I'm curious what about injectables makes them specifically problematic for long term use? Diabetics already have to inject insulin for the rest of their lives, and an injectable version of the same drug usually has fewer side effects since it doesn't have to pass through your gut metabolism. I may be biased, I have no fear of needles and have injected myself with sex hormones every week for nearly 7 years, so adding an autoinjector doesn't seem like that big a deal to me.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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I don’t want this to come out insensitive or from under the rock, but why is taking a drug a novel & cool idea (all of a sudden/recently) as opposed to good old fashioned working out and not eating more than what you need? okay, this drug is all kinds of great and it’s the next best thing since green grapes, still not eating more and workout is better than taking drugs that effect your brain right? Are doctors requir…

Saying that the cure for obesity is to eat less is like saying that the cure for heroin addiction is to stop using heroin. It's both clearly true, and also useless.

The cure is to teach from an early age about impulse control, moderation, and how to spot signs of addiction in yourself early. This goes for:

Social media

Drugs and alcohol

Food

Or literally any other addiction. I don't think this is a useless thing to discuss.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Instead of a system that makes these drug available for purchase, I'd rather live in a system that promotes healthy food and active behavior. Unfortunately, I have to drive everywhere, work too many hours to have free time for recreation and have no idea which government subsidy is going to help big ag likely at the expense of my health. All things being equal, I'd prefer to spend less money on prescriptions and have…

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Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Instead of a system that makes these drug available for purchase, I'd rather live in a system that promotes healthy food and active behavior. Unfortunately, I have to drive everywhere, work too many hours to have free time for recreation and have no idea which government subsidy is going to help big ag likely at the expense of my health. All things being equal, I'd prefer to spend less money on prescriptions and have…

If you have an open mind, I'd like to assign you some homework if you like. Take a look around r/zepbound and count the following: 1. Posts from folks who diet+exercise, or who have tried diet/exercise and nothing's worked so they then turned to Zepbound ("excited to hit the gym," "my diet is finally starting to work with Zepbound" and similar) 2. Posts from folks who haven't tried diet/exercise and turned to Zepboun…

GP isn't talking about self-control, they're talking about the fact we've created a system that requires obscene amounts of self-control if you wish to maintain physical health.

People in the 50s weren't slimmer because they had ironclad determination to stay such.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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I've struggled with weight loss my entire life. It's gotten to the point where I'm on multiple blood pressure medications, and the dosages are creeping up. And yet I still find myself thinking about eating constantly. Then I took Zepbound. It was revelatory. It was like a curse was lifted, and my hunger was silenced. I'm down 45 lbs in 4 months. Perhaps if I didn't have responsibilities or trauma or stress or a thous…

Nice story, but I stick to my opinion.

Drugs and excuses are merely replacing natural selection.

I've struggled with weight too, and both alcoholic and abusive parents, traumas and stress, and I stuck on discipline and won it.

You should absolutely do what makes you live better, but you aren't solving the root causes, just making excuses.

That's the biggest issue I have, these drugs are just gonna make the world unhealthier and unhappier.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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> "Just eat less and exercise more" is trite. If it were that easy, we'd all be in fantastic shape. Studies show it just doesn't work. There was a massive (18,000,000 people) cohort analysis published in 2023 that showed the likelihood of someone losing 5% of their body weight in any given year was 1 in 11 and the likelihood of going from severely obese to normal weight is 1 in 1667. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/…

Eating less and exercising more does work, in fact that is how you lose weight. The problem is doing it consistently which is what these drugs help with.

Yes, they clearly mean that it doesn't work at a societal level. If you take a human and force them to exercise more and eat less, they're going to lose weight. And everyone knows that, but pretty much every modern society is increasingly overweight. Ergo, "it doesn't work".

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Instead of a system that makes these drug available for purchase, I'd rather live in a system that promotes healthy food and active behavior. Unfortunately, I have to drive everywhere, work too many hours to have free time for recreation and have no idea which government subsidy is going to help big ag likely at the expense of my health. All things being equal, I'd prefer to spend less money on prescriptions and have…

What is a realistic path to this? Being from Europe I visited US last year and was horrified at the quality of your food. You see a lot of documentaries/youtube videos/etc... discussing the problem, but how do you even go about this?

There's plenty of high quality food, you just have to know where to look. For example, come to the Bay Area and check out Whole Foods and any number of high-end restaurants.
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