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China plans to ban exports of rare earth magnet tech

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Post by DiogenesKynikos »

zpeti wrote: post #432
snehk wrote: post #401

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The reason why the US doesn't like China is because the US dislikes the idea of being the #2 economy and losing control. The US has absolutely no "morals" so to say and is allied with/provides literal military support to about 70% of dictatorships[1]. The US simply acts out of national interests, not morals. History proves this. I'm baffled by how many Americans repeat state propaganda points. [1] https://truthout.or…

> The reason why the US doesn't like China is because the US dislikes the idea of being the #2 economy and losing control And? Do you want Xi Xinping in charge of global culture, security, finance? How is that working out for your average Chinese these days (and I’m not talking about the previous freeer era). You want social credit scores? One man basically in charge of the global military? You paint a picture of Ame…

> You want social credit scores?

This is your daily reminder that social credit scores don't actually exist. They're a myth, a meme.

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Post by mlindner »

Emma_Goldman wrote: post #482
SkyMarshal wrote: post #460

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> The reason why the US doesn't like China is because the US dislikes the idea of being the #2 economy and losing control. This comment gets thrown around a lot but oversimplifies things. First, in the 90s, 2000s, and some of the 2010s ‘the US’ was China’s biggest cheerleader, investor, and supporter. Most US elites knew China would eventually become a bigger economy due to their 4x larger population, and were ok wit…

>"Second, sure the US doesn’t want to lose control of the mostly peaceful, prosperous, and free rules-based order it created after the disastrous first half of the 20th century. And rightly so." Which has been the justification every hegemonic power has offered when working to undermine a rising power. Whose rules are they, and who do they benefit? Who has most egregiously exempted themselves from the rules without c…

The world has benefited far more than the US ever did. The "rules based order" was never created to benefit the US, if anywhere, it was created by the US to benefit Europe and East Asia to highly encourage a World War 2 to never occur again. China has benefited from this order more than the US ever has. It brought them out of poverty. Now they want to discard it now they've achieved some measure of regional power.

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Post by DiogenesKynikos »

HyperSane wrote: post #309
Barrin92 wrote: post #307

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the reality distortion is pretty astonishing. This is clearly retaliation for the American policy of containment. The US for several years has now openly made it its goal to try to strangle Chinese technological development, most importantly in the chips sector. It's actually surprising how little response up until now came out of China. In the world overall nobody actually perceives this as China overplaying its han…

People have been predicting that the US dollar will stop being the dominant global currency for a VERY long time. What are your thoughts on China's treatment of the Uighurs?

That people constantly raise, "What about the Uyghurs?" in conversations about the US and China constantly amazes me. After 20 years of constant war in the Middle East, including the illegal invasion of Iraq (consequence: several hundred thousand deaths), the overthrow of the Libyan government (consequence: a decade of civil war and a complete collapse of living standards), and the two-decade-long occupation of Afghanistan (right across the border from Xinjiang), you'd think Americans would be a bit more self-critical and aware.

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Post by fnordpiglet »

herbst wrote: post #502
fnordpiglet wrote: post #496

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I get that but I don’t get what barriers exist preventing competition that meets your cultures norms. There’s no state mandates involved? I suspect the answer is scale of market giving scale of impact, as well as overall quality of production and post production of American media. What’s your take? Particularly in the space of internet technologies it feels like “nothing stops you.” But I also think global social med…

You are right I guess. Movies being the best example. Netflix and all companies that followed opened up investments in international movies and within only a few years US movies appear to be the minority, at least on German streaming sites. Today we have several real time payment methods "better" than credit card. I still can't sell a dildo with paypal, but I do have options now (if I don't care about us customers wh…

In America this is a non issue to be honest. The rest of the world rarely registers. The American market is so vast in itself that is the primary focus. The issue of China has more to do with the courting of totalitarianism (Russia, North Korea, and various other bad guys), destabilization of international institutions, aggressive economic espionage, etc. I think the #1 vs #2 GDP is about as big a non issue to most Americans as nudity in Europe. I think this is a hold over from the 1950-1980’s, but American society now is much more insular and focused more on the Kardashians clothing choice.

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Post by kalleboo »

senttoschool wrote: post #473
kalleboo wrote: post #365

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Yeah we should quit doing that too, I don't think anyone but the political elite are in favor of being dependent on middle eastern countries

Will you complain when inflation is 500% by quitting Middle East oil and China's manufacturing?

Why would slowly increasing renewables and EVs while diversifying and automating manufacturing cause 500% inflation?

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Post by cpursley »

fbdab103 wrote: post #316
cpursley wrote: post #313

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This builder creates their own unique design. And Strandburg used to open source their designs: https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/3lb8pm/strandbe...

That reddit link reaches out to a page [0] that puts the license as CC BY-NC-SA 3.0, meaning non-commercial. Looking at the updated strandberg site[1] and some Ali clones, they look identical[2]. Maybe there are tweaks to the design, but it sure looks like the IP has been lifted entirely. [0] https://guitarworks.thestrandbergs.com/ [1] https://strandbergguitars.com/ [2] https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-headless…

The only similarity is that they are headless. The NKs are a pretty different body carve now.

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Post by kelnos »

snehk wrote: post #401
jacquesm wrote: post #230

In a way this is good news. The more China overplays its hand in this undeclared economic war the more likely that Western countries will realize that they are making the exact same mistake with China that they have made with Russia. You can't play nice with dictatorships in the hope that your long term economic interests will be aligned to the point that the other party will be forced to continue to play nice. China…

The reason why the US doesn't like China is because the US dislikes the idea of being the #2 economy and losing control. The US has absolutely no "morals" so to say and is allied with/provides literal military support to about 70% of dictatorships[1]. The US simply acts out of national interests, not morals. History proves this. I'm baffled by how many Americans repeat state propaganda points. [1] https://truthout.or…

I don't care what "the US" is in this context. I care about myself and the people close to me. And I don't like what life might look like if China were to become #1 and be able to dictate even more about our lives than it already does.

The US and other Western countries are far far far from perfect. They suck in many ways. But I much prefer the West's values over that of the Chinese government's, as flawed as they might be.

Certainly another potential global hegemon could be better for the world than the US (or, perhaps, no hegemon at all). But IMO China ain't it.

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Post by kelnos »

paganel wrote: post #484
baq wrote: post #454

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You haven’t heard because they are very good at being quiet about what they do. Google Uighur, then google further since you now know what to look for.

At this point I'm treating any information coming from Western sources as propaganda and definitely questionable. It wasn't always like this, but that's what the last couple of years have made me think. As such, I'd need other sources than Western media to tell me what to think about what happens to the Uighurs (whom I'm sure do not have an easy life, far from it).

It sounds like you're saying that, because you can't be certain of the truth presented by Western media, you're just going to assume that everyone be going on in China is just a-okay.

Maybe go ahead and find those alternate news sources, explain why you believe they are accurate, and present a conclusion?

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Post by kelnos »

herbst wrote: post #467
kleene_op wrote: post #459

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I'm not sure I want America to be the world leader. But I am definitely sure I don't want it to be China.

But that's not what it is about. China doesn't seem to try to enforce global policies (right now) nether do they claim the moral right for OUR society.

Sure they do. They just do it through second-order effects so it seems less obvious what's going on. I recall an instance where an American basketball team owner said something in support of the Hong Kong protests. His team was immediately banned from China, both physically and via broadcast.

Being able to publicly censor foreigners who dislike your policies is a useful power.

When you control economic access to a billion people, you don't always need guns to get others to do that you want. (China does have plenty of those guns, though, if and when they decide they need them.)

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Post by VulgarExigency »

vasac wrote: post #498
SkyMarshal wrote: post #460

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> The reason why the US doesn't like China is because the US dislikes the idea of being the #2 economy and losing control. This comment gets thrown around a lot but oversimplifies things. First, in the 90s, 2000s, and some of the 2010s ‘the US’ was China’s biggest cheerleader, investor, and supporter. Most US elites knew China would eventually become a bigger economy due to their 4x larger population, and were ok wit…

> Iraq was a travesty, and I have no idea what went on with Libya, or what is going on with Syria, for example. Beautifully spoken. Yet you still speak of peaceful, free and rules-based order.

Exactly. "I have no idea of what I am talking about, but I will repeat American State Department propaganda regardless."
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