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Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate

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Post by jkilpatr »

derefr wrote: post #505
jkilpatr wrote: post #324

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> and choosing to use ETH2 as their mainnet substrate chain instead. But why exactly? Until ETH1 is in the ETH2 chain ecosystem ETH2 is just another blockchain platform, providing no network effects. ETH2's big selling point was higher throughput but bridges are already starting to commoditize access to more throughput from ETH1. ETH2 could provide smoother access than the bridge interfaces provided by other chains.…

The difference is that ETH1 will bridge to ETH2 in the future, and therefore by choosing ETH2 as your substrate, you’re predicting that transaction costs for sibling-transactions crossing from your chain to ETH1 will become cheaper when that happens. A similar promise cannot be made for any other substrate network, as ETH1 isn’t going to bridge to any other substrate network. Since it’s not like sub-chain mainnets ca…

There are bridges to and from Ethereum right now. I use them every day because I need a fast sidechain for my application.

Choosing ETH2 is predicated on the assumption that ETH1 will be bridged more cheaply and easily than existing bridges can provide and that the opportunity cost of waiting is worth it.

I had to make that decision personally, decided I can't wait for ETH2, so we're using a bridge that's available today and building an ecosystem elsewhere.

Several other product leads that I know are making the same decisions, they can't just put their lives on hold and trust that ETH2 will solve problems for which there's no public timeline or even a public solution.

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Post by namibj »

pantalaimon wrote: post #425
namibj wrote: post #201

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Well, tell that to my chipset's SATA controllers (Sandbridge generation). Intel messed up their life expectancy calculations, and thus they died after 2~3 years. I think 2 are still alive.

The Sandy Bridge SATA issue did make big waves back then and Intel did a recall IIRC. Only the B2 stepping of chipsets should be affected by this tough. https://www.anandtech.com/show/4142/intel-discovers-bug-in-6... https://techreport.com/news/20326/intel-finds-flaw-in-sandy-...

I guess I should have gotten a replacement board.

I'll probably just upgrade to Zen3 soon, so it'd not be worth the effort (the machine in question is off and in storage).

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Post by namibj »

o-__-o wrote: post #261
namibj wrote: post #201

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Well, tell that to my chipset's SATA controllers (Sandbridge generation). Intel messed up their life expectancy calculations, and thus they died after 2~3 years. I think 2 are still alive.

Looks like you should have put a fan on that chipset. Like your GPU, which runs at extreme temperatures for extended periods of time!

It was cooled by the OEM config. And the chipset did get nice airflow.

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Post by kortex »

ryebit wrote: post #227
kortex wrote: post #211

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Proof of stake is the fusion power of crypto. It's been 6-24 months away since what, 2016? I toured Consensys a few years back and at the time it seemed PoS was right around the corner. OTOH, it could be cracked tomorrow and value of dedicated silicon will go off a cliff. So I don't blame the GPGPU crowd for that, before even considering the engineering challenges of silicon/FPGA for eth.

Ethereum's Proof of Stake "beacon chain" is already live, with around $6 billion staked (since launch in december 2020). Next year is just formalizing and testing it taking over from the miners. So despite timeframe, there's little uncertainty about the outcome. https://beaconcha.in/ is a nice explorer to see beacon chain running live.

Neat, thanks!

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Post by bserge »

megameter wrote: post #427
bserge wrote: post #367

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Haha, I also noticed that used parts that lasted ~2-4 years have a lower failure rate than new ones. All the ones that fail, fail early, and the surviving ones go through a sort of "extended burn-in" so to say.

I have a longstanding habit of buying my laptops refurbished - so, a few months of wear and sometimes a "scratch and dent". To date, every one of them has been a winner on longevity.

Same, only had a problem twice, with a failed USB/audio daughterboard on an Elitebook ($20 replacement) and a failed VRM capacitor on an MXM card (replaced it but the GPU itself failed after a year so I just got a new card, $100).

I'm really sad about new laptops having everything soldered on. If something fails, you either need a good reflow station (and skills) or you have to toss the whole thing, which is insane.

It also makes parts ridiculously expensive, like a system board for a Dell Precision now goes for ~$500 where it used to be under $100. All because the CPU, GPU, VRAM and even RAM are soldered on.

Honestly, I hate where all of this is going. So much for everyone going green.

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Post by caycep »

anonisko wrote: post #471
benrbray wrote: post #460

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I don't really want to see politicians giving bitcoin holders too much weight when making decisions about how the economy should function. Anyone who owns Bitcoin is gambling. There was never a guarantee that value would go up, or that the government squash the idea entirely. If we as a society decide that Bitcoin is too dangerous, current holders should accept Bitcoin for what it was: a bad investment.

There are more people who already own some bitcoin than you'd probably want to believe. Many of them believe bitcoin is on balance a good thing. There are at least a couple of bitcoiners currently in Congress, including the new Senator of Wyoming who is publicly all aboard the idea that bitcoin is an important, long term store of value that the US needs to jump on board with. How many politicians do you think already…

Is there way to mandate energy limits or possibly compute limits on hardware/software in the US? But that may also be a slippery slope...

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Post by CyberDildonics »

f430 wrote: post #472
CyberDildonics wrote: post #435

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Everything you just said is total nonsense. This idea that you are going to "wear out" a GPU is something people started saying when they were obviously bitter about not being able to find GPUs and seeing them being resold later for more than retail after they had been used for mining. There is nothing to back this up unless something melts.

by wear out means losing power/heat efficiency you absolutely can wear out a GPU with excessive mining.

That's not how electronics work.

Do you think the copper wiring in your house also wears out?

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Post by jrrrr »

arcticbull wrote: post #313
jrrrr wrote: post #249

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[citation needed]

Here ya go: https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption/ And here: https://www.solarreviews.com/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-c...

What needs a citation is the comment I replied to, SSLy's assertion that:

> No one mines bitcoin on GPU's anymore, since 8? years.

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Post by R0b0t1 »

R0b0t1 wrote: post #197
mckirk wrote: post #107

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There is the effect of 'electromigration' at least, which causes atoms of conducting materials to be transported over time because of the current (if I understand it correctly). That might be an issue over the long term, especially at the ridiculously small scale of chip manufacturing we've reached now.

Takes 100yrs on current processes to break a particularly weak bond wire.

Sorry, not bond wires. A weak cross section in the metal layer.
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